有没有讨论养老润的润友？

年近五旬，2、300金币，不婚主义、最后一代，有没有自由度、法制水平、治安水平、生活成本至少不差于泰国的地方可以润去养老呢？虽说泰国就挺好，不过还没到年龄，办不了养老签。墨西哥是一个选择，但是治安风评太差。语言的话英语能对付日常生活，倒是也不排斥润后再学一门当地语言。

欢迎讨论，谢谢大家！

• Author: Badgummm
• Created: 2023-01-12 04:14:54 UTC
• Score: 17
• ID: j3zr36h
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你是个硬人儿全世界都是游乐园， 你没钱，那都是拉磨

掏钱

• Author: Hwy_233
• Created: 2023-01-12 10:53:37 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j40ph49
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什么许四多

• Author: Badgummm
• Created: 2023-01-12 11:39:00 UTC
• Score: 2
• ID: j40t67m
• Ups=2 | Flair=已跑路 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40t67m/

叫法王

• Author: Hwy_233
• Created: 2023-01-12 11:40:04 UTC
• Score: 3
• ID: j40t9kg
• Ups=3 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40t9kg/

遵命法王

魔陀切叶阿诺托！

• Author: Badgummm
• Created: 2023-01-12 11:40:53 UTC
• Score: 3
• ID: j40tc1l
• Ups=3 | Flair=已跑路 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40tc1l/

默克切页啊诺托

• Author: Okie_Muddy_30
• Created: 2023-01-12 04:16:38 UTC
• Score: 75
• ID: j3zrata
• Ups=75 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j3zrata/

去个小留多的地方当房东收租吧

• Author: hedwigchyan
• Created: 2023-01-12 04:26:03 UTC
• Score: 4
• ID: j3zsfvx
• Ups=4 | Flair=打酱油 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j3zsfvx/

不知道葡萄牙黄金签证你的金币够不够cover

• Author: ShitInTheHole
• Created: 2023-01-12 08:21:37 UTC
• Score: 4
• ID: j40ebve
• Ups=4 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40ebve/

正好在坎上，如果再考虑把钱挪出去的成本就不好说，而且买完房子就只能喝西北风了。

• Author: batman_run
• Created: 2023-01-12 11:42:00 UTC
• Score: 2
• ID: j40tfgv
• Ups=2 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40tfgv/

35万欧买俩二手商铺收租还能剩几十个金币

• Author: SilverButterscotch52
• Created: 2023-01-12 04:27:58 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j3zso3l
• Ups=1 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j3zso3l/

西班牙？

• Author: Antique_Ad5679
• Created: 2023-01-12 04:30:14 UTC
• Score: 4
• ID: j3zsxyd
• Ups=4 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j3zsxyd/

日本

• Author: Strong-Quiet8204
• Created: 2023-01-12 05:42:01 UTC
• Score: 5
• ID: j400ost
• Ups=5 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j400ost/

日本应该难，本身就老龄化严重

• Author: wolfofbne
• Created: 2023-01-12 04:51:34 UTC
• Score: 2
• ID: j3zve87
• Ups=2 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j3zve87/

希腊，格林纳达，塞浦路斯，卢森堡，马耳他

• Author: [deleted]
• Created: 2023-01-12 05:03:45 UTC
• Score: -1
• ID: j3zwq63
• Ups=-1 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j3zwq63/

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• Author: CowRidesMe
• Created: 2023-01-12 06:03:18 UTC
• Score: -6
• ID: j402qo7
• Ups=-6 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j402qo7/

两三百个腊肉金币说少不少，说多也不多。有两三千个这个就很好推荐了

• Author: ShitInTheHole
• Created: 2023-01-12 08:17:18 UTC
• Score: 6
• ID: j40e04a
• Ups=6 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40e04a/

两三千万肯定南欧选个地方了。还是穷啊。

• Author: Szzz2022
• Created: 2023-01-12 09:09:55 UTC
• Score: 13
• ID: j40hviz
• Ups=13 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40hviz/

两三千还需要来红迪吗

• Author: money_president
• Created: 2023-01-12 06:05:19 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j402xj4
• Ups=1 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j402xj4/

智利，发达国家，你说的基本都满足

• Author: money_president
• Created: 2023-01-12 06:05:47 UTC
• Score: 4
• ID: j402z50
• Ups=4 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j402z50/

生活成本高于泰国

• Author: ShitInTheHole
• Created: 2023-01-12 08:29:17 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j40ewvs
• Ups=1 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40ewvs/

刚调查了一下，确实还是个可选项，不过还没退休，被动收入得想想怎么搞。再就是生活成本还要调研一下。

• Author: d2v5
• Created: 2023-01-12 06:38:45 UTC
• Score: 19
• ID: j405znq
• Ups=19 | Flair=打酱油 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j405znq/

有点麻烦，因为两三百万人民币的话是刚好能买房拿居留的临界值，再多一点就好搞。泰国貌似能买那种精英签居留

• Author: ShitInTheHole
• Created: 2023-01-12 08:19:18 UTC
• Score: 6
• ID: j40e5jx
• Ups=6 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40e5jx/

精英卡这个之前也了解过，不过发帖的时候没想起来。也许是最现实的路径。

• Author: Zestyclose-Brush5993
• Created: 2023-01-12 10:18:58 UTC
• Score: 2
• ID: j40muqm
• Ups=2 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40muqm/

爹，你带我去吧

• Author: d2v5
• Created: 2023-01-12 12:00:57 UTC
• Score: 3
• ID: j40v4sq
• Ups=3 | Flair=打酱油 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40v4sq/

确实，一堆相近年龄的新加坡人和白人在考虑这个精英签，唯一缺点是也不能换永居

• Author: [deleted]
• Created: 2023-01-12 07:22:07 UTC
• Score: 12
• ID: j409nbq
• Ups=12 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j409nbq/

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• Author: ShitInTheHole
• Created: 2023-01-12 08:23:55 UTC
• Score: 7
• ID: j40ei95
• Ups=7 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40ei95/

台湾固然很好，但是大陆籍没可能啊。日本可以搞经营签，不过实际上想退休，不想再费心做事了。

• Author: Hwy_233
• Created: 2023-01-12 10:54:03 UTC
• Score: -8
• ID: j40piau
• Ups=-8 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40piau/

找个日本女的三年入籍不就得了。

你给他50万都多

• Author: Substantial-Bee-5972
• Created: 2023-01-12 19:07:21 UTC
• Score: 3
• ID: j42kfkr
• Ups=3 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j42kfkr/

台湾不能去

• Author: niamabie
• Created: 2023-01-12 07:28:44 UTC
• Score: -1
• ID: j40a6iy
• Ups=-1 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40a6iy/

厄瓜多尔

• Author: No-Intention-9416
• Created: 2023-01-12 07:40:05 UTC
• Score: 2
• ID: j40b3j2
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西班牙，只要你有钱，养老听说很舒服

• Author: unterix
• Created: 2023-01-12 07:58:33 UTC
• Score: 40
• ID: j40ck4z
• Ups=40 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40ck4z/

爹，带我去吧

• Author: Round-Temporary6089
• Created: 2023-01-12 20:52:56 UTC
• Score: 5
• ID: j431p49
• Ups=5 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j431p49/

排个队 给楼主嗦牛子

• Author: nathena_19
• Created: 2023-01-12 23:29:37 UTC
• Score: 5
• ID: j43r4xw
• Ups=5 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j43r4xw/

楼主牛子给嗦没了

• Author: Difficult-Sleep-7060
• Created: 2023-01-12 08:27:19 UTC
• Score: 3
• ID: j40erin
• Ups=3 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40erin/

爹

• Author: Acceptable_While2284
• Created: 2023-01-12 08:42:29 UTC
• Score: -1
• ID: j40fvyy
• Ups=-1 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40fvyy/

只有家乡🇯🇵了， r/runtojapan

• Author: Potential-Bend-2381
• Created: 2023-01-12 08:43:04 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j40fxgx
• Ups=1 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40fxgx/

老年了，去的话很孤独吧

• Author: Rude-Cheesecake-3689
• Created: 2023-01-12 08:48:52 UTC
• Score: 6
• ID: j40gctg
• Ups=6 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40gctg/

马来西亚就很好啊物价不高美食多华人多

• Author: [deleted]
• Created: 2023-01-12 09:02:32 UTC
• Score: 6
• ID: j40hc89
• Ups=6 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40hc89/

墨西哥可以，挑个治安好的地方就行。比如Saltillo，Mérida，Puerto Vallarta，Durango以及Los Cabos。

• Author: ShitInTheHole
• Created: 2023-01-13 02:52:52 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j44jxzl
• Ups=1 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j44jxzl/

墨西哥之前确实是有认真考虑过，除了治安因素，还一个就是觉得太远了，去了的话基本跟东南亚这种花花世界拜拜了——中南美的花花世界完全不了解情况。

• Author: [deleted]
• Created: 2023-01-13 03:26:55 UTC
• Score: 2
• ID: j44odum
• Ups=2 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j44odum/

是担心没有性生活吗？那去巴西吧，可以合法找妓女。

• Author: Antique_Ad5679
• Created: 2023-01-12 10:07:45 UTC
• Score: 2
• ID: j40m10y
• Ups=2 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40m10y/

日本亚洲天花板 也可以说小黄人能选最好国家 治安好 有小礼总比没礼貌强吧😉 平均寿命全球第一 退休可以开个出租车 日本很多80多岁老人工作 工作就是生命

• Author: TimeLimitExceeeeded
• Created: 2023-01-12 10:14:45 UTC
• Score: 2
• ID: j40mjft
• Ups=2 | Flair=准备跑路 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40mjft/

那不是没法养老

• Author: killcn
• Created: 2023-01-12 10:46:06 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j40ow83
• Ups=1 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40ow83/

为什么你可以在太监区和真太监区随意发言而不被太监区ban？

• Author: TimeLimitExceeeeded
• Created: 2023-01-12 10:47:59 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j40p1d8
• Ups=1 | Flair=准备跑路 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40p1d8/

真太监区一直没被太监区mod认定为浪系，btw谢谢对我背调

• Author: Antique_Ad5679
• Created: 2023-01-12 10:55:54 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j40pnbh
• Ups=1 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40pnbh/

养老是伪命题 日本退休后也会找工作 日本老人工作机会很多不累 日本全球免签也没见多人日本人去别国养老😓

• Author: Zestyclose-Brush5993
• Created: 2023-01-12 10:20:38 UTC
• Score: 8
• ID: j40mz96
• Ups=8 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40mz96/

还真有这么大年龄的润友，你比我爹年龄还大，我爹有你这样的觉悟就好了

• Author: Future-Requirement50
• Created: 2023-01-12 10:52:09 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j40pcyi
• Ups=1 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40pcyi/

南非？绿卡靠买，300够在沿海买个小别墅，气候好空气好

治安，，别去白人区以外的地方就很ok，北方城市少去，比如约堡

• Author: MoonRocketRider
• Created: 2023-01-12 11:49:40 UTC
• Score: 3
• ID: j40u3wr
• Ups=3 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j40u3wr/

马来西亚🇲🇾是个很好的选择，连语言都不需要学。我对那里是很中意的，在我的计划列表上。虽然是穆斯林为主的国家，但是英联邦的政治经济教育福利体系，社会相对稳定，生活成本低，而且地理位置优越，华人聚居区甚至都不需要会英文。门槛不高。而且经济即将进入高速发展期，去留学生多的地方买公寓出租就很稳定。至于医疗之类的，基础医疗覆盖比国内好一些。

• Author: thewayiam1999
• Created: 2023-01-12 14:17:01 UTC
• Score: 3
• ID: j41aqxf
• Ups=3 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j41aqxf/

经济进入高速发展期哈哈哈哈，你来久住就知道这是不可能的事情了。马来西亚本质是一个比中国还要可悲的地方，所谓的多民族diversity，不过是大家在有限度有礼貌的互相讨厌对方罢了。买房子租留学生这点倒说的对，这边房租一直在涨而且需求很大。生活成本以它的本地收入来说并没有很低，不如泰国。

• Author: MoonRocketRider
• Created: 2023-01-12 14:21:08 UTC
• Score: 2
• ID: j41bbjd
• Ups=2 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j41bbjd/

我说的是即将啦。有空可以读一下Peter Zihan对地缘的解读，长期马来西亚的地缘和资源优势都比东南亚其他国家要好一些。现在看也许不怎么样，但是随着SEA区域的投资增长，未来5-10年可以看到一波不错的发展。至于泰国，基础不错但是进一步发展空间很小。而且看一个国家是否适合养老也要看他长期的社会稳定性，每个国家都有内部矛盾，但是马来西亚整体相对来说稳定性是不错的。

• Author: ShitInTheHole
• Created: 2023-01-13 02:49:49 UTC
• Score: 2
• ID: j44jj3u
• Ups=2 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j44jj3u/

第二家园？这个要求月入1万马币，不适合提前退休。如果提前退休能被动收入1万马币，那肯定选葡萄牙这类地方了。而且第二家园只是长期签证，不是绿卡也拿不到国籍（华人拿大马的国籍我个人是不愿意的，立法上就公开歧视华人，我宁愿选墨西哥），比葡萄牙这类方案差远了。

• Author: MoonRocketRider
• Created: 2023-01-13 07:56:18 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j45g1de
• Ups=1 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j45g1de/

还有其他选项，但是要求在马有值得信赖的朋友。我恰巧留学期间认识了一个很不错的homie，曾经还想把他妹介绍给我。总之是有选项的。

• Author: [deleted]
• Created: 2023-01-12 16:41:21 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j41wg9i
• Ups=1 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j41wg9i/

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• Author: Ryl_tl
• Created: 2023-01-12 17:21:33 UTC
• Score: 3
• ID: j422y83
• Ups=3 | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j422y83/

哥斯达黎加

• Author: [deleted]
• Created: 2023-01-12 17:22:34 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j4234ao
• Ups=1 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j4234ao/

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• Author: GTAHarry
• Created: 2023-01-12 17:52:06 UTC
• Score: 3
• ID: j427zcf
• Ups=3 | Flair=美加墨 | FlairColor=light | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/109pper/有没有讨论养老润的润友/j427zcf/

墨西哥安全且适合养老的地方有的是，随便说两个：ajijic & san miguel de allende. 你去过就知道了基本上满大街old white American. 不过American去是因为离美国近+无时差，对于东亚人而言这2点好处完全没有。

• Author: hohnkl
• Created: 2023-01-13 00:50:06 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j442vb6
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做题家说这题有点超纲，直接开嗦吧

• Author: Moranjiang
• Created: 2023-01-13 18:46:58 UTC
• Score: 1
• ID: j47ld31
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找个台湾邦交国当跳板试试

• Author: Leexiitto
• Created: 2023-01-16 09:16:15 UTC
• Score: 2
• ID: j4ke7cm
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哥斯达黎加啊，美国后花园，移民不花钱，风景还好。