我拥有意大利国别永居，正在申请欧盟居留，打算定居到法国并在当地工作，但不知道如果留在法国的话，欧盟永居好还是法国国别居留好。

已经在r/conseiljuridique咨询了，但还是想问下有没有在法国的蝙蝠。

真心求助。

ps：不是a国国别居留更换到b国国别居留，是a国永居更换到欧盟永居再更换到法国居留，但我不知道欧盟永居更换到法国居留会不会从长期居留退化成短期居留，也不知道欧盟永居在满足其他条件的情况下代替法国国别居留能不能入籍法国。

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原来一个国家的永居可以拿到另一个国家用🤯赚了

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不行哦，我是国别永居申请欧盟永居

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你还要多久入籍？

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A国签发的欧盟永居并不能直接到B国定居。你去法国必须还是拿法国工作居留

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Eu long-term residents不是说跟国别永居不一样，我看官网上写right to move and work in other Member States

😨

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这只是European Commission 的美好愿景（Objectives)罢了😅 一般来说是没有欧盟国家直接承认他国的欧盟永居的，只会有些简化手续

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😭

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你入籍意大利啊，然后法国瑞士挪威爱尔兰 任你住😂

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入籍意大利要10年居住，永居5年

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我是用国别永居申请Eu long-tern resisdents也就是欧盟永居，法国的Carte de résident de 10 ans 属于是La carte de séjour pluriannuelle，也被翻译为永居（尽管不是）

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欧盟永居[官网](https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/migration-and-asylum/legal-migration-and-integration/long-term-residents_en

允许工作跟留学的，我只是不知道能不能代替长居在满足其他条件的情况下入籍

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谢谢你的帮助

我是打算去法国换专业重读本科，居留可能需要从头开始，像这样情况需要多久才能拿到法国长期居留啊？😭😭😭

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谢谢

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羡慕得想哭

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怎么拿意大利永居？鼠鼠羡慕死了

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温州人假结婚全村移民了解一下

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https://www.reuters.com/article/italy-sweatshop-idCNCNEA0607720140107

https://www.italymagazine.com/italy/police-smash-bogus-italo-chinese-marriage-ring

https://www.ft.com/content/a8cb4784-82de-11df-b7ad-00144feabdc0

https://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubblica/archivio/repubblica/2007/02/28/nozze-truffa-con-le-cinesi-31-arresti.html

http://www.centrostudi.50epiu.it/Schede/tariffe-a-partire-da-3000-euro-per-i-matrimoni-combinati

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Google “Can you settle in France with a European residence permit?”

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谢谢

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不能，入籍后能。

意大利入籍要求10年，你符合条件了吗？

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意大利入籍满足条件后申请要等几年？你不如还是直接拿意大利国籍了吧，方便有用太多了。拿了之后荷兰德国瑞士都可以方便润很多，不拿去别的国家又要重新开始计算永居和国籍时间

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顺便告诉你答案，那就是不行。不过你有意大利永居，有个好处就是你润德 润荷失败你可以回意大利生活和工作，不会送中

但是还是建议你等意大利国籍，永居太垃圾了

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谢谢你的回答，但你的意思是我可以同时拥有两国居留卡吗？🥹

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可以

很多人好几重国籍

你这算什么

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顺便再跟你说下，你这么搞不是说不行 只是意义很小。就算西欧每个月能攒下的钱也不会比你在意大利多很多（除非你税后工资翻两倍以上）。当然积少成多这肯定 但是你在事业初期赚的钱较少的时候 我觉得为了一个意大利国籍再在意大利工作几年还是可以的。你30 34岁润别的国家工作也没什么。当然你要是卷王 事业狂 那么建议你确实别留在意大利 事业机会没多少

不过有个变量就是你国籍批下来要几年，上次有个人跟我说要3年 4年。那样的话还是快点跑路。但是也有人说半年就下来了。额

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不对啊 哥们你是不是troll

你之前的帖子还说你在国内 需要高中文凭造假

难蚌 这么玩哥们为了个啥

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另一个贴纯🎣一眼反串，高中都没毕业的人基本不可能雅思7，当时大号看到有人问自己高中读不下去能不能雅思过7而开的恶搞贴

我本人真有意大利永居

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搞笑，某温州蛆竟然因为老乡在意大利干的芝士破防拉黑。

https://www.reuters.com/article/italy-sweatshop-idCNCNEA0607720140107

https://www.italymagazine.com/italy/police-smash-bogus-italo-chinese-marriage-ring

https://www.ft.com/content/a8cb4784-82de-11df-b7ad-00144feabdc0

https://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubblica/archivio/repubblica/2007/02/28/nozze-truffa-con-le-cinesi-31-arresti.html

http://www.centrostudi.50epiu.it/Schede/tariffe-a-partire-da-3000-euro-per-i-matrimoni-combinati