两个国家我都爱,真的很纠结,现在三本大二离毕业还有两年,软件专业,老东西每天晚上看强国大宏观入脑妥妥粉红恶心坏了一直说国外比国内差所以打算一分不给。润友们能否给个大方向的建议就行。


  • Author: fudolana
  • Created: 2023-07-18 15:45:33 UTC
  • Score: 8
  • ID: jsgsop1
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德左的新政现在好像还满友善的,似乎有机会?

  • Author: [deleted]
  • Created: 2023-07-22 11:37:10 UTC
  • Score: 1
  • ID: jszjjw4
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  • Author: bin10010
  • Created: 2023-07-18 16:11:08 UTC
  • Score: 51
  • ID: jsgwhna
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三本大二真的有了

  • Author: fudolana
  • Created: 2023-07-18 16:38:11 UTC
  • Score: 21
  • ID: jsh0jk9
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死也不能死忠国,晦气

  • Author: HeLangG
  • Created: 2023-07-20 12:57:34 UTC
  • Score: 1
  • ID: jsq1ovn
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德国看起来比较好,日本也挺压抑的。

  • Author: Loud_Cucumber6304
  • Created: 2023-07-18 16:11:21 UTC
  • Score: 34
  • ID: jsgwiur
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建议是学哪门语言学的下来去哪个

  • Author: DS_irl
  • Created: 2023-07-18 16:52:20 UTC
  • Score: 1
  • ID: jsh2oe2
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日本吧 最近在做日本旅游攻略,恨自己不是日本人😭😭😭😭以前在欧洲完全没有这种想法😭(我不是二刺猿,不爱看动漫)

  • Author: fudolana
  • Created: 2023-07-18 16:54:26 UTC
  • Score: -3
  • ID: jsh2zpg
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唉,身体里留着贱民的血,这狗屁社会

  • Author: Run_RunRun
  • Created: 2023-07-18 18:10:57 UTC
  • Score: 8
  • ID: jshf0kh
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?欧洲的高低起伏的风景不比日本好看多了

  • Author: emptyeeee
  • Created: 2023-07-19 04:15:29 UTC
  • Score: 3
  • ID: jsjqx7h
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你也知道是旅游了

  • Author: Hollande_Uranus
  • Created: 2023-07-18 17:19:32 UTC
  • Score: 4
  • ID: jsh6rmu
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我是要选德国了。

  • Author: [deleted]
  • Created: 2023-07-18 17:22:04 UTC
  • Score: 1
  • ID: jsh764y
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  • Author: vega-sicilia
  • Created: 2023-07-18 17:22:10 UTC
  • Score: 5
  • ID: jsh76pv
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是我就选德国

  • Author: Ok-Iron-2608
  • Created: 2023-07-18 19:11:45 UTC
  • Score: 3
  • ID: jshoppe
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语言和技术都抓喜欢哪个去哪个,你分币不花,还要什么大方向 对于你来说就是德语和日语哪个好学去哪个 花费都不大

  • Author: tin1254
  • Created: 2023-07-18 19:18:20 UTC
  • Score: 6
  • ID: jshpr4j
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如果想要work life balance 就去德国

  • Author: Intelligent-Half-187
  • Created: 2023-07-18 19:40:17 UTC
  • Score: 9
  • ID: jsht6il
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本人是做嵌入式的,咱們將來可能算半個同行。。。本人在德國短期出差過,現在在荷蘭工作,有認識在日本工作的同行。。。再給我一次機會,我選日本。。。第一,歐洲經濟是在緩慢下降中的,而日本剛結束失去的三十年,經濟非常強勁,日本贏。。。第二,對於大部分中國人來說,日語比德語容易學習,這兩個國家都需要語言達標才比較好留下和生活,日本贏。。。第三,德國留學費用比日本低(日本打工稍微自由一點,但德國也不差,還不收學費),德國贏。。。第四,日本的科技行業體量略大於德國,但是日本吸引的留學生數量遠少於德國,留學生將來更容易留下,日本贏。。。第五,德國大學畢業率比日本低,畢業時間平均比日本長。。。除了費用低,德國對於國人來說不如日本容易移民的,加上日本到處中華料理,和國內一樣能享受口福,多好啊。。。

  • Author: paladinpyke
  • Created: 2023-07-18 19:43:55 UTC
  • Score: 3
  • ID: jshtr4h
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日本要准备考试,德国课程匹配度够,直接去就行。但是日语比德语好学太多(对我个人来说)。

  • Author: suzirrr
  • Created: 2023-07-18 19:57:24 UTC
  • Score: 1
  • ID: jshvuw3
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论政治文明程度还是西欧更高,与此同时欧洲粮食自给率高,饥荒问题少不会太卷,社会普遍没那么压抑。缺点有种族歧视相对严重,亚洲人比较弱势,还有难民治安问题,但总体相比日本瑕不掩瑜。现在德国新的国籍法颁布,除了东欧南欧卖护照之外,靠留学工作入籍基本上算是欧洲最容易了吧?

  • Author: suzirrr
  • Created: 2023-07-18 19:58:29 UTC
  • Score: 21
  • ID: jshw0r2
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论政治文明程度还是西欧更高,与此同时欧洲粮食自给率高,饥荒问题少不会太卷,社会普遍没那么压抑。缺点有种族歧视相对严重,亚洲人比较弱势,还有难民治安问题,但总体相比日本瑕不掩瑜。现在德国新的国籍法颁布,除了和东欧南欧卖护照的国家相比之外,靠留学工作入籍德国基本上算是欧洲最容易了。

  • Author: Electronic_Big_9676
  • Created: 2023-07-18 21:36:47 UTC
  • Score: 3
  • ID: jsib1sc
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西歐人類天堂

  • Author: sfidante_stupido
  • Created: 2023-07-18 23:24:34 UTC
  • Score: 0
  • ID: jsiqurx
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现在也没有直接卖护照的国家了,黄金签证都快没了

  • Author: Ok-Rest9380
  • Created: 2023-07-18 21:08:10 UTC
  • Score: 8
  • ID: jsi6r22
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什么双性恋择偶问题,既然都爱选哪个都行。实在想脚踏两条船,那先润日再润德,因为日本不承认双国籍但德国新国籍法承认,(听说)日本通常不会强制双国籍人士退籍。

我个人选了德国是因为欧盟护照,万一后悔了我还可以搬去其他欧陆国家,不至于吊死在一棵树上...

  • Author: MaryPaku
  • Created: 2023-07-19 02:25:03 UTC
  • Score: 3
  • ID: jsjehlx
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日本通常不会强制双国籍公民退籍(若有误望纠正)

应该说是只要你不特地告诉他 他就不会特地查 机灵一点就可以了

  • Author: cereal_kitty
  • Created: 2023-07-18 23:09:37 UTC
  • Score: 6
  • ID: jsios2z
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都能去的话我个人会选德国

  • Author: sfidante_stupido
  • Created: 2023-07-18 23:18:25 UTC
  • Score: 2
  • ID: jsipzwk
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去日本

  • Author: ZaaaKill
  • Created: 2023-07-18 23:45:48 UTC
  • Score: 21
  • ID: jsitryq
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选德国啊,亚洲社会都少不了爹味和上下级阿谀奉承的氛围,日企文化toxic程度声名在外,日本只适合旅游退休,不适合工作生活,除非你是欧美企业在日本当地外派那还可以考虑不过没什么跳槽机会。日本排外严重一代移民融入非常非常难除非你对日本文化非常感兴趣日语非常非常好。德国虽然也比较排外毕竟不是美加澳新这种移民国家,至少文化没那么有毒,而且德国二次移民去美加澳新也比日本容易。

  • Author: MaryPaku
  • Created: 2023-07-19 02:26:46 UTC
  • Score: 9
  • ID: jsjep96
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亚洲人想融入日本还是比别人有优势的。

  • Author: emptyeeee
  • Created: 2023-07-19 04:14:28 UTC
  • Score: 7
  • ID: jsjqtge
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中国人在日本唯一的优势就是出事了在街上不会被认出来被打

  • Author: Ai_Bao_Ai_Dang
  • Created: 2023-07-19 09:40:02 UTC
  • Score: 4
  • ID: jski5l0
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其实还是能认出来

  • Author: emptyeeee
  • Created: 2023-07-20 08:31:27 UTC
  • Score: 5
  • ID: jspcxby
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整个发型,优衣库套装,吃的清淡+护肤品让皮肤变好

  • Author: Dry-Strawberry-7668
  • Created: 2023-07-19 00:19:55 UTC
  • Score: 3
  • ID: jsiybjz
  • Ups=3 | Downs=0 | Archived=true | Permalink=/r/iwanttorun/comments/1531y0z/很犹豫润德还是润日/jsiybjz/

金币多少也没说啊...

  • Author: kenny323y
  • Created: 2023-07-19 08:50:15 UTC
  • Score: 2
  • ID: jskefz7
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谁家小孩

  • Author: xuesongdeyingzi
  • Created: 2023-07-19 14:53:23 UTC
  • Score: 2
  • ID: jslho3r
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把日语学好,润德国。这样出事了可以装家乡人。

  • Author: Icy-Past-8692
  • Created: 2023-07-21 20:39:52 UTC
  • Score: 1
  • ID: jswyauk
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选德国

  • Author: FrontSignificant3405
  • Created: 2023-07-22 08:18:34 UTC
  • Score: 1
  • ID: jsz4b17
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润德润日,你是真支黑

  • Author: Electrical-Ninja1600
  • Created: 2023-08-08 09:32:40 UTC
  • Score: 1
  • ID: jva19pd
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在日想润德😭