小弟是国内5所top3中某一个的硕士研究生,现在研一刚结束。前几天,导师和我说组内有转博的名额,小弟就陷入了纠结。小弟把所有的情况和纠结都列出来了,恳请各位给予一些帮助,谢谢大家🥺
本人情况:
- 本科某中上211计算机专业(GPA 90+),硕士某top3 CS(泛AI)专业;目前有一篇borderline reject的paper,正在转投
- LBGT,没有出过国,对欧美有一定的憧憬;希望能过正常人的生活
- 家境贫寒,无法给予经济支持;父母年龄较大
- 有轻度干眼,在定期去医院的情况下,可以支持正常科研任务
- 应该会走工业界,学术界太卷且太累
两种选择的优缺点:
组内转博:
【优点】
导师:刚毕业不久的年轻导师,学术能力比较强;人品非常nice,日常没有任何杂活,和导师交流几乎没有顾虑;指导耐心细致,除了coding之外其他都会仔细指导(例如带着我画图,真的特别好)
实验室:实验室资源能满足科研需要(有A系列显卡可用);实验室博士不多,刚刚达到两位数没多久;有国内知名企业合作(科研课题),大方向有一定限制
时间和补贴:硕博总计5年;博士补贴大概10k/月,不用问家里要钱的同时还可以攒下一些
【缺点】
没有海归身份,认可度可能会比较低
没有海外生活经历,之后再去海外生活可能会难度比较大
实验室氛围比较卷,大家都干活干的很猛
海外读博
【优点】
拿到国外博士学位,留下会更方便
海外生活经历,不管适不适合都可以更深入了解(而不只是通过网络了解)
回国后海归身份加分
LGBT环境友好
【缺点】
了解到的实验室联系比较密切的组(加新澳),工资大概都是刚刚cover的水平,和国内(相同物价水平)比较的话,差距比较大
导师/实验室没有接触过,存在风险
容错比较低,一是无法适应国外环境,二是担心病情加重,会影响生活学习,甚至退学
我的纠结
和导师也交流了一下,他表示国内国外都会支持我去读;自己上一届三个师兄,一个组内转博,另一个打算去老师推荐的海外组。导师是国内发展比较顺利的土博,所以对海外生活其实了解也不太多,不能给我这方面的建议。
就拿学位来说,组内的优点实在太多(导师特别好、工资很高、时间短等),但是自己内心最深处的想法,还是希望最终可以到LGBT友好的地方平淡地生活,不用顾虑外界的眼光。出国的纠结点,主要在于钱和身体的问题,个人觉得容错率可能有些偏低,如果无法正常完成学业或者把身体搞垮,有些得不偿失。如果读完博之后再出国,按我了解到的信息来看,难度实在有点大。
第一次发帖,希望大家可以给我一些意见或者建议,特别是我可能因为阅历不够,没有考虑到的地方。感谢大家~~🤒
- Author: zhen_li
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10k也太多了吧
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
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学校+实验室+企业合作,做的科研课题是企业给的大方向;这也是让我很难拒绝的点
- Author: lost_temple__
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有run的计划当然出去,以后不打算润就国内
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
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如果是土博润的话感觉可能难度会比较大
- Author: Wooden_Company_4856
- Created: 2023-07-19 07:19:23 UTC
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这是润组,不是来给你人生规划的。
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
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如果出国的话,就是希望润了,可能上面没有说清楚;这里可能会有有经验的人,所以还是发帖来问一下~
- Author: asdklfjrtbwl
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建议留在国内发展比较好
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
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🤔不知道可不可以分享一下原因,谢谢你~
- Author: asdklfjrtbwl
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总之你的情况适合在国内发展
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
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🤣哈哈哈
- Author: Appropriate-Gas262
- Created: 2023-07-19 07:42:36 UTC
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虽然这里是RUN组
我还是要说 career >> immigration
你career水平够高。。单纯要换个国家没那么难
我也是当年强行出来。。耽误了2 ~3年
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 07:45:25 UTC
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sorry...我以为这里也可以讨论career🤐(不知道有没有适合讨论Career的组推荐)
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
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强行出来的意思是说没有太多准备就匆忙出来了吗😂谢谢鼓励!
- Author: Appropriate-Gas262
- Created: 2023-07-19 07:51:09 UTC
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不是富蛆,家里不能源源不断提供现金流的话
你可以出来但要十分理解目标地,完成学业→就业→PR这个流程
- Author: Appropriate-Gas262
- Created: 2023-07-19 07:52:29 UTC
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不是2代有资金支持不断试错
我见过的最后能拿PR的 2 out of 10 这么概率吧
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
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谢谢你这么多的回复,我很赞同 career 更重要这一点,之前没有考虑到;心里大致有数了,再次感谢!
- Author: Appropriate-Gas262
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:06:07 UTC
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可以直接转到海外不错的组。。一步到位
career + expats 当然最好。。我们也不知道具体情况
要你自己判断,也许你导师画大饼都是Hallucination(留下更惨)
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:09:43 UTC
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转学的话几率估计为0😂(可能会有机会交流1年左右)
导师画大饼的概率倒是不高,问了一下组里的博士,应该大差不差👻
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怎么耽误了,细说
- Author: Appropriate-Gas262
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大家对延误机会很感兴趣么。。
那就多说几句,移民本质上就是 Juggling 3 balls between immigration policy, money , working opportunities. 假如你就面临直接收入问题,当然要先解决吃饭问题就要去和你同水平(可能还低一点)的,本地人不愿意去的偏远地区&工厂什么的
为了拿身份或者就是就职倍率&竞争率低的位置
你有钱可以不考虑支出平衡,就去有careerpath的职位,但是新移民特别是只靠自己的,
要优先解决收入(哪怕是short version 的工作) 和安定性问题
- Author: 8964tank
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锁死吧
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:10:54 UTC
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😥这么没机会吗
- Author: kaguraP
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Lgbt 只是润的关键因素不是决定因素。有被迫害的严重的走线都要跑的,也有家里几套房收租的,没多少参考性。
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:13:16 UTC
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可能是对境外环境的美好幻想太多😂谢谢指点了~
- Author: Kind-Visit4122
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了解一下对岸的身份政策
并不是所有国家都是 在地学历 = 身份
钱的话美国行情是有30+k, 至少自然科学是这样的;除非有特别生活习惯(在Rodeo Dr逛街时旁听到的某留学生: “哎,今天只花了30万”),不必担心
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:27:15 UTC
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感谢回复,确实可能关于身份的政策需要再了解一下(一天花30w也太夸张了
- Author: Kind-Visit4122
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:38:37 UTC
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留学最痛苦的是什么?以我过来人的经验, “曾经沧海难为水,除却巫山不是云”
某日曾哭醒过,因为梦中回到对岸,然后长眼梦醒什么都没了(其实30万对一些人来说,真的是rounding error)
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:44:36 UTC
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相信自己会回到最广阔的海岸线边,加油!
- Author: Kind-Visit4122
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:50:51 UTC
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谢谢, 不过已经功德圆满修成正果
祝愿你也能找到自己道路
- Author: LLLDHM
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:27:34 UTC
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建议别急着转。国内保研硕士比直博更困难就是因为硕士更灵活,三年毕业了可以出国读博,也能国内读博,也可以工作,更灵活。
LGBT这点那就不用说了。国内不迫害你就算万幸了。据我所知有些单位已经把生育子女个数作为升职指标之一了。
另外所谓国内知名企业也很难说是什么优点(尤其点名华为,在我知道的圈子里的口碑基本就是pua血汗工厂)。我周边同学除了回国找教职,没一个回国找其他工作。哪怕去海外的字节,shopee这种中国人主导的企业都比国内好太多。
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:41:16 UTC
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谢谢你的建议!这个问题我也考虑过,转博的优点一方面是时间短2年,另一方面是现在的学分和科研可以直接用于博士毕业😂如果正常硕士毕业的话,我很难确定那个时间点下,出国的优缺点和现在相比,能改变多少,特别是在经济支持这一方面😐
- Author: LLLDHM
- Created: 2023-07-19 09:03:38 UTC
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经济方面都是够用的,而且生活品质肯定比国内高,不至于两三个人挤宿舍,节俭点也能攒下钱。而且现在cs的PhD工资普遍会比其他专业还高点。
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 09:08:19 UTC
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之前看到组内有connection的安省的学校,PhD工资扣掉学费之后基本就没什么富余了😂因为家里不能给经济支持,所以这方面很敏感😶
- Author: LLLDHM
- Created: 2023-07-19 09:13:19 UTC
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一般没有学校给PhD的工资不能让学生正常生活的。要么就是工资比较高但是要交学费,要么就是工资够生活费但是免学费。没见过PhD需要家里支持的,是不是没看清学费减免之类的东西。
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 09:29:38 UTC
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之前看到的waterloo CS PhD的funding大概3w cad,学费一年就要7k*3 cad😂 加上ta之类的可能才能糊口...
- Author: yougiho
- Created: 2023-07-19 10:07:43 UTC
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你确定不免学费?这个比例不合理啊
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 10:27:07 UTC
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加拿大好像确实是学费要funding里出;除了funding可能还会有其他award,但是不是必有的应该😂
- Author: LLLDHM
- Created: 2023-07-19 10:12:47 UTC
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这个确实不多,感觉得要有个2000每月才够
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
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😭
- Author: Upbeat_Process_870
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:35:12 UTC
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CS润的难度在变大,而且这条路上厉害的人不少。一般来说西海岸肯定是首选,无论是交友还是谈恋爱。然后西海岸的lgbt文化,看你对于一些casual的事情怎么看。我个人的感官是,你需要考虑一下生活的具体城市,人口,娱乐,生活压力,而不是国家。如果你在一些村里的学校,不会开心的可能。
我作为gay在国内的观察而言,虽然舆论环境这几年是急速下降,但是生存环境其实还行,毕竟不婚不孕那么多,开枪甚至开不到你身上。当然了,这个定时炸弹肯定你要背着。而且我觉得,现在lgbtq你可能还是要过父母关,这无论你在哪里念书都逃不掉。
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:47:46 UTC
- Score: 1
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谢谢回复!CS确实强者如云😂确实具体的地点还没有想清楚😐
我在国内的周围朋友对待lgbt还是很包容的,日常其实没有太大的生活方面的纠结😂主要还是父母这一关,实在难顶
- Author: Guilty-House6978
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:38:49 UTC
- Score: 5
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选海外不可控因素比较多,但如果有决心以后在国外生活,那还是值得一搏。
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 08:48:17 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: jskeanw
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谢谢你~
- Author: Dry-Rip3945
- Created: 2023-07-19 09:09:03 UTC
- Score: 0
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去读性别研究吧
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 09:09:52 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: jskfwee
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哈哈哈,没什么兴趣😂
- Author: victor_0409
- Created: 2023-07-19 10:04:45 UTC
- Score: 6
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同LGBT 🏳️🌈
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 10:28:35 UTC
- Score: 2
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🤗
- Author: PhilosophyMammoth748
- Created: 2023-07-19 10:17:03 UTC
- Score: 1
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搞学术一律润,留不下美也可以加澳欧转圈,总有收留的地方。博士毕业在全球都是可以以当地中产保底的,只不过洼地的中产水平太低了。
中国的LGBT处于一种和它人权水平接轨的程度,如果你能忍其他人也能忍,反而不是一个首要考虑因素。
- Author: JamOfBrian
- Created: 2023-07-19 10:58:46 UTC
- Score: 4
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”回国后海归身份加分“ 你都LGBT了还回国?
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 11:21:20 UTC
- Score: 1
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🤣很有道理
- Author: JamOfBrian
- Created: 2023-07-19 11:25:57 UTC
- Score: 8
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如果我是LGBT,这都不是选择题。我认为:当人>career/移民/。。。任何东西。在这你连人权都没有 你还考虑什么呢,未来挣多少?这边导师同学很好相处?祝你成功!
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 11:56:03 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: jskuam8
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谢谢~
- Author: hooooooos
- Created: 2023-07-19 13:23:12 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: jsl4smb
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如果你想着回国加分的话还是别出来了。你在中国要走到高层海外经历其实是一个减分项。可能也就民企的底中层海外会有一丁点好处但也不如你华五的优势大
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-20 01:46:46 UTC
- Score: 1
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走到高层还是算了吧,估计是没机会了😂
- Author: hooooooos
- Created: 2023-07-20 01:55:00 UTC
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中高层都是华五赢,除非你去hypsm
- Author: fuckccp114514
- Created: 2023-07-19 11:17:57 UTC
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是男同性恋吗?
- Author: hooooooos
- Created: 2023-07-19 11:35:34 UTC
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为什么你会认为你会无法完成学业
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 11:55:45 UTC
- Score: 1
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毕竟是异国,之前没有出过国...PhD学不下去的人太多了,延毕的和把身体搞垮的都有很多
- Author: hooooooos
- Created: 2023-07-19 11:56:55 UTC
- Score: 1
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我身边还没见过谁phd搞身体搞垮的。你自己衡量吧,做任何事几乎都有风险,只要看你觉得成果值不值得冒这个风险
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-19 11:59:37 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: jskuohr
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是的,看自己能不能赌得起了。谢谢你的回复~
- Author: [deleted]
- Created: 2023-07-19 11:43:40 UTC
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- Author: EricHu519
- Created: 2023-07-19 12:59:27 UTC
- Score: 1
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同lgbt,现在在国内读研,也在观望中,想润加但不确定体检能不能过(之前做过手术),要是实在走不了的话,打算北上广打工赚点钱然后去云南这种风景漂亮的地方买大house躺平
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-20 01:26:00 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: jso6ivg
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哈哈哈,加油😎
- Author: p2o51
- Created: 2023-07-19 16:32:53 UTC
- Score: 1
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楼主可以看看小蓝三号机这个微博,最近成都已经开始猎巫了。
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-20 01:40:21 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: jso8feb
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其实和其他楼的评论一样,体感上其实并没有觉得受到了太多压迫,主要还是父母方面的压力和舆论环境的下滑;不过可能趋势上会有一些变化,也谢谢提醒~
- Author: josephHiitler
- Created: 2023-07-19 16:37:50 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: jslyees
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如果海外组有稳定funding就润(一两年就够,后面不行转组或者转ms毕业),没有就国内赖皮。
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-20 01:41:39 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: jso8lod
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如果funding说的是博士生都有的生活津贴的话,那应该都是有,就是可能不太多😂
- Author: Regular-Rub-2099
- Created: 2023-07-19 16:49:25 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: jsm0aqg
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评论里好多LGBT哈哈哈,国内对于LGBT现在谈不上迫害那么严重,但是日常各种场合都要隐藏身份,和国外大大方方的处事待人,两者区别看OP看中多少。父母那一关压力也会不一样,在一个社会接受的环境里和父母出柜和在洼地向父母出柜,不是一回事。 简单化,一定要润,海外读博更有利。可润可不润,组内读博更有利。 你没说年龄但是大概估计国内博士毕业也就25,26。 普通人(润后还是需要上班养家的人)润最重要的是💰技术年龄。组内博士毕业后积累工作经验和语言能力,两项在上升,一项仍然有竞争力,依然能润。不过润后的衔接阵痛比海外读博费用窘迫的阵痛更大。 以终为始,目标在哪,选择就清晰了。
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-20 01:38:43 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: jso87gs
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感谢老哥这么长的评论!组内读博的话,正常毕业是27;对于组内转博的话,比较担心的是土博身份会给润增加多少难度,毕竟完全没有国外的学习经历了😂除了当地学位之外,可能还有语言、生活适应程度等问题。润对我来说可能更像是一种途径,能够更接近正常生活的途径,而不是最终目的,也许这一点我还需要再考虑一下🤔再次感谢老哥的指点~
- Author: cuddlykitty_
- Created: 2023-07-19 17:02:45 UTC
- Score: 1
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FWIW,我认识有人就是国内博士博后,被海外高校邀请过去做博后,最后永久职位的
- Author: ComprehensiveBuy6605
- Created: 2023-07-20 01:25:31 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: jso6giw
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这种一般是学术能力很强的博士🤣哈哈
- Author: ximingze8964
- Created: 2023-07-20 08:08:27 UTC
- Score: 1
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家庭条件一般,以后不去学术界,也没很大的决心润,你读博干嘛?
正常人没事别读博,这是成本巨大的一件事情。