目前美本在读中,top100某大学CS专业三年级,3.7/4绩点,无任何实习,是鼠。

自认为计算机底子薄,愿做两手打算,多一门语言,多一条润路。目标选择一门学至C1.

家中不支持纯砸金币路线,仅支持技术路线,可以供我在任意国上到博士那种。

敢问各位朋友,西班牙VS法国+魁省,cs硕哪个是毕业后更好留下?

如果选择法语,申请法国大学还是魁省比较好留下?听说加拿大有一个法语人才,是真的吗?

如果不能指望西班牙,那么智利,乌拉圭两国 (主要是智利),有西班牙大学文凭在当地找cs工作难度如何?留下来难度如何?对智利政策没有了解。

作为一名鼠,绝对留下第一。只想逃出洼地。

总的来讲,西语vs法语,哪个才是更好的道路?


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留下第一,为啥不去加拿大

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本科前较傻,对美帝政策大大的不懂,再加上家里坚持我去美帝。

后来明白offer和h1b之变态程度后彻底傻眼,愿轻喷:)

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美本毕业简单去加拿大读个硕士,不就run了,如果需要可以换个专业

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听说加拿大cs硕士不好申。像calgary york这样的普通加拿大硕士cs毕业可行性如何呢?

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无脑法语,我都不知道你怎么想出来的西班牙语,states往北哪有西语的空间。法语想留走魁省,安省法语项目,路子宽的很。

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嗯嗯,感谢您的关注。西班牙语主要是对states以南的一点点幻想。完全没有了解过智利乌拉圭这二个国家,听说挺发达,气候适宜。且智利护照免签国实在有点儿多,而且智利公民可用H1B1避开抽签排期回美。

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兄弟,放弃有关南美哪怕的一丁点想法吧,有支撑美本的经济实力哪怕不学法语留加也是很轻松的。苟过这一轮低潮再南下大有可为。btw魁省就业没法跟安省竞争,安省比较之下机会还是很多的。一言以蔽之,想稳想留就北上吧,CA欢迎你。

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明白了,兄弟,谢谢你。

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学德语;从歌德学院学而且美国这么多德佬练口语方便

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而且美国大学不少面里就能学;比如杜克

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还是得要个环境

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确实,但美国德语区不算差了比巴西智利德语环境好太多了

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对于标准高地德语而言,美国和巴西智利没什么区别即没有语言环境。

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確定德裔美國人都不講母語了解

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但架不住美國歌德學院多。

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德語系質量好

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確實如此;不得不佩服美國強大的同化文化

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確實

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可是说德语的可润国只有德国。听说德国是欧陆小加拿大。真的那么可润吗?本人绝非学霸,属于妥妥中等生。

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走英授德硕,(比如御三家自由海大lum 或慕工大英授联培项目 😁😁😁可以在美国把德语基础打好(如果你真的德语c1可润国为德语区包括意大利博尔扎诺

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意大利这个城市为啥是德意双语城市?意大利只有这一个城市是这样的吗?

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对;这地本來是奥匈地盘一战后归意呆

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钢丝玩家狂喜

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然而這游戲在德國巨受歡迎

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喔喔,长见识了。不过敢问这些大学对于本美帝渣大生申请可行性如何?留德难度如何?

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实话说世界排名top100名气大点的学校成绩中上U15的非受限专业随变挑

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emm朋友属实误解本鼠了。就读渣大是在美国大学中排名top100. 而且在海外没有甚么名气。

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那就先死磕雅思與gpa反正慕大與慕工大只歧視大陸雙非;然後拿柏林工大以及kit達姆工大保底,德语过來學

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德國的情況是過只要努力拿高分需要高考之勁頭

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雅思七分可以上慕尼黑大学和慕工大(你这家庭条件建议无脑慕大上學時搞大學附近或奧林匹克公圓一套房賺大錢 六点五分可以去柏林三兄弟及海德堡(这个学校性价比不错且为英授同学尤其Cs专业免费教德语;就是今年 Q S拉了从五十多六十多趺到八十七

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英授大于德授;難度略高於法意瑞士但好處是移民法改了,不會德語也可以拿藍長或工簽留下來

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请问您这里的法意瑞士指的是?移民难度?还是课程难度呢?

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英文授课的课程难度就是总的来讲 (๑⁼̴̀д⁼̴́๑法国高商急升急走,我相信你是清楚的,而且在法国用英文上课的话,可能说白了,压力要比在德国小 英文授课要小那么一点( ´◔ ‸◔')瑞士的话其实和德国差不多,但是英文授课的话就是英语授课可能德国会在难度加那么一点点,意大利的话德国就绝对比他难了。

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明白了兄弟。难度大一点我觉得其实倒也还行我觉得。肯定是要刻苦学习的。

法国和西班牙商科我理解大概就是要送中的。送中速度和英国水硕有一拼

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而且德语学习有一个快方法考出德福,送中一年在同济大学留德预备部搞出来(你可以美本毕业后这样搞下)

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有德碩學歷加交兩至三年社保加德語A1,可拿永居;如果德語C2加德碩與博可以走特殊融入成就兩年入籍

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wow听起来还不错

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你可以先過來;德語在大學里或找個語言班慢慢學或者去同濟大學留德預備部突擊一年考出c1

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在本科毕业后去德国读语言学校后还能考研吗

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兄弟我建議你也在美國先把德語打好基礎或者是直接把德語需要出來也沒有必要再花另外的錢來德國讀語言學校而且德國大學是讀和美國一樣研究生不用考是申請

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德语C 2適用於德專生但個人也可以試

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能学到c2的德语不如把法语学到c2,去法国照样很快入籍。

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听说法国五年居留便可入籍?

西班牙要10年。无语。

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就是说有c2加上读完博士就可以拿身份了呗,这个真不错啊 (特地翻回来过来看了一遍

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不是你读博二的时候就能拿身份了。因为你计算机属于岗位博 是在德国这边岗位博 是属于工作算工龄的,然后应该是学校或者是研究院给你发工资。

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啊哈,就跟美国这边儿的博士后似的,了解了!那这也太爽了吧。

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像我文科的话就不行,我文科的话就必须就是说博士由于不是带岗位置的博士估计是按照读书的年龄算,只是把你看做工作,但是不算工龄。

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我的建议是你可以考虑一下,反正就是德语或法语呗,2选1,现在趁德国移民法改了,抓紧时间过来,谁知道哪一天风云实变

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嗯嗯,我现在开始倾向于德语了其实。既然不考虑法国,那么法语就只剩下魁北克了。魁北克一共不到一千万的人口。

当然所有这一切都是建立在本鼠英语无忧(toefl110+)的情况下的。

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还有喀麦隆可润

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喀麦隆官方语言英法双语,和加拿大一样。

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哈哈哈哈哈哈😂,我当初也是觉得,法语下限就只剩黑洞非洲了😂

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想润的话法语 单纯学着玩的话西语

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感谢🙏

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法语。西班牙语对移民西班牙语国家很必要,可惜不建议中国大陆人移民任何西班牙语国家,尤其是已经在美国读书的中国大陆人。

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请问为何不建议西班牙,身边有个准备学西语的朋友

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西班牙大陆人移民很慢

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了解 谢谢

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不是说西班牙学费便宜吗?3年可以入籍还是永居啥的?

有篇帖子 六年九千公里:从国内中专生到西班牙硕士 说的是西班牙留学,你怎么看待这篇文章?

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同问。。😳

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就能拿到当地绿卡(居留卡)

一个临时居留和pr差十万八千里😅anyway即便是pr eu国家的国别pr也非常鸡肋,和eu公民权差太远。

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是的,临时还是心中坦荡

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就像朋友美帝拿到h1也天天失眠,怕裁员怕抽不到工签

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就是说了个学签换工签的事,不是换国籍/永居。

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其实不怕慢,怕得是留不下。。

不过听说西班牙经济很差,怕是不好找工作吧。

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慢本身就意味着维持不被裁员的时间巨长

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10年才能申请入籍...你觉得时间成本如何?

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🍁需要几年?

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有加拿大pr住三年即可;拿到pr前的临时居留可累计最多一年。

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明白了,那请问就我这个情况,加拿大联邦/魁省读一个普通大学研究生之后留下来好呢,还是先读一个美国研究生,然后在加拿大阿/曼/萨/大洋省份走EE打分移民,或者利用法语优势润进魁省好呢

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这个问题,考虑可能今后专门开一个帖子请教大家,放这里太隐蔽了,怕不会有太多润友看到。

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加拿大联邦/魁省读一个普通大学研究生之后留下来好呢

这个最好。你都要移民加拿大了就不要在美国读研了。

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懂了懂了。谢谢大神

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但问题是,英语不好的人去加拿大,一旦找不到工作,省提名和EE都凑不出,谈何PR?

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英语不好的人去加拿大

额英语法语不好的人就不要选择加拿大移民了,除非非常壕。

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感谢建议,不过敢问可否具体说明一下,为何不建议任何西语国家?主要是哪些原因呢?

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身份不值钱。所谓最值钱的智利护照tbh也就那么回事imo远不如加拿大身份,光看免签能去哪太狭隘了。而且现在从头到尾拿到加拿大国籍大概率比拿到智利国籍还要快,即便是你西班牙语流利。

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法语 魁北克

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感谢建议🙏

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学西班牙语好留下,毒贩会重点培养你的

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xswl

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学计算机这些都不是加成,如果是学经济的留欧洲还是很有优势的。学计算机该研究是Java还是c++还是别的编程语言…因为你把学一门外语的时间投入在一门计算机技术上随便就成大牛了。

我学的德语留在德语区,后面也学了法语。也犹豫过法语和西语学哪个。如果是在欧洲单看工作机会德语>法语>西语,西语甚至排在意语,俄语和波兰语后面。需要西语的职位对口也是墨西哥/南美,西班牙本地全是南美移民,再学也学不过人家母语者,再加上本身西班牙经济不好,失业率欧盟第一。法语其实也是个坑,法国越来越差,加拿大除非一定要走魁北克,否则英语足够,当然法语也可以考虑瑞士和卢森堡以及比利时,但反正也就是看运气,因为本身国家小,需求量相对低,人家要码农开个车几个小时就到东欧了没必要在本地找大量技术人员。德语其实是性价比最高的,因为除了德国,瑞士和奥地利也说,瑞士的工资可不低。但瑞士不好留,而且如果是走技术英语也足够用了。

一点建议供参考。

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加拿大除非一定要走魁北克,否则英语足够

nah现在说英语足够也不是那么绝对了。英法双语都好才是最容易拿身份。

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嗯嗯,英语现在很卷。大家都削尖脑袋要润。

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感谢大神指点分享。

南美移民是真。西班牙貌似对这些国家公民有特殊政策,非我们能比。确实。而且这群人说起西语来绝对比我们更溜。

波兰方面有了解。说是现在有很多外包公司在波兰华沙和格但斯克设点。但是波兰语太难了,7个格。

不过我这样的条件,去德国读德硕留德是容易不容易呢?

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外语基础好的话学德语 硕士读个中等偏上的德硕 德国甚至瑞士都可以找到工作润走 比利时也不难 不好的话学日语 2年读完直接高度人才签 1年拿身份

  • Author: PhotographMain8645
  • Created: 2023-07-21 19:21:10 UTC
  • Score: 1
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外语基础,西班牙语法语A2。德语只会几句,日语不会。

  • Author: jachinn
  • Created: 2023-07-22 12:39:19 UTC
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无脑选法语 不用考虑别的选项了

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  • Created: 2023-07-22 04:54:38 UTC
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比利时…是法语和荷兰语啊…德语只有那么一小撮,能找到啥…

  • Author: Anarco-Statist
  • Created: 2023-07-21 21:17:23 UTC
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学西语可以去迈阿密当鸭子

  • Author: MTAwZjUzODktZWZmtU3
  • Created: 2023-07-21 21:51:21 UTC
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法語

  • Author: Holiday-Body-16
  • Created: 2023-08-06 11:54:47 UTC
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法语,肯定法语