现在规划了两条路线，一种是爆金币去东欧上学，有20-30个金币，短期内不用担心金币，入学后学习小语种。二在大马上个硕士，毕业后去🇯🇵，日语大概n2，可以对话的程度。我比较倾向去东欧上学，上学期间学点德语或者法语，工作经验有几年。但是不知道东欧工作或者从东欧跳德和北欧的难度，有没有大佬科普下

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为啥要去东欧不直接去德

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德国狗屎一样的地方你还推荐

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不比东欧好？

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对于码农还真不一定

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不了解德国，情况比加拿大还差么

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junior半斤八两，德国起薪也有5万欧，虽然税后也就2500一个月，生活成本有工作的都市1200到1500至少的，最基本的体面。所以一个月1000都很难攒下。到了middle和senior就被加拿大吊着打了。德国senior一个月3500-4500，5000属于很高，5000以上就很少了。而且这样的工作基本上都在大都市，房租一个月单人1000出头起步的地方。所以senior一个月攒下2000欧都很难，狗屎一样的地方

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加拿大那么高工资的应该是凤毛麟角，而且房租可能更贵。不过中等级人员赚十几万在多温魁应该相对多一些。

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考慮稅後收入，當地物價，rent range 製造業為主的國家都很。。 還有middle以上的成長空間，等於幾乎沒有 BTW不了解在德細節，感覺還是比日本強一點吧 生活上估計沒這邊舒服

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笑嘻，日本狗屎一样的国家你都吹，还比日本强一点。。绷不住了。。。德国再怎么垃圾也不是日本可以碰瓷的。日本junior税后2000欧的都是牛人了，而且汇率最近跌到妈都不认识

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666 一看想要润新加坡？笑嘻了日本这么好怎么还润新加坡呢。还不是日本码农工资低的一笔

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卧槽，bro 意大利呢，我打算去意大利申请研究生开润，听说那边很差劲，我也是计算机专业

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别傻了。。绷不住了。日本意大利这种狗屎中的狗屎，你还不如去个德国瑞典。

加拿大 澳洲>>>东欧>西欧>>>意大利日本

爱信不信

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没钱啊兄弟，我爸炒股把钱亏光了，有没有便宜点的地方推荐

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好地方轮得到你？可以试试走线美国下飞机庇护嗯刷盘子，干个几年说不定绿卡有了。那时候再干码农

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呜呜呜，太鸡巴伤人了你说话

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抛弃幻想。再说你在加州刷盘子赚的大概比意大利甚至德国senior多

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问题是我拿来的庇护

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https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/germany

https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/canada

房價可以numbeo 之類查一查大城市之間的比較, e.g. Toronto, Vancouver vs Berlin, Munich. 整體房子還是加拿大大城市房更貴.

感覺總合下來是看中位數的人那相差不遠 (因為加拿大高了工資也高了房價), 但加拿大的差別更大, 所以是if you are top performer, 那加拿大的確比德國更好for 碼農.

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至於和東歐比, 呵, 也是自己levefyi查一查就是了. 那種滿口髒話的不用太認真對待.

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笑嘻 要是你知道东欧一大堆德国人荷兰人跑去工作，因为税前差不太多，税后一个月攒下3000 4000，不知道你会怎么想。真以为东欧tech很弱呢？美国西欧一大堆外包给东欧的

还levels fyi，一点税收 房价房租 工资水平都不了解，看个最粗浅的levels fyi就当自己是知情者了。绷不住了

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请问东欧的信息去哪里了解呢？有没有本国人的论坛呢？

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东欧工资不高 而且要看你做撒 工作不一定很多

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