本贴讨论学术路线的润。主要英美加澳。理论上来说,只要把信件写好,认真润色,把自己的优势都讲出来,并给教授画饼,然后投给这几个国家的不同大学教授,只要数量多,乱拳打死老师傅。听说有的人没有读研,用这个方式直博,现在还可行吗?
- Author: xiaochuansun114514
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:32:27 UTC
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你还没搞清楚重点。读博士的难点不在于套不套得到,在于你最后毕不毕得了业。
- Author: Feisty-Ad-4249
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:40:18 UTC
- Score: 2
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我觉得能套到就不错了
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:38:12 UTC
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这样还是别读PhD了,读PhD学术目的远大于移民。
- Author: Feisty-Ad-4249
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:39:10 UTC
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- ID: lfws7pw
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也就是说读博对移民作用很小
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:39:34 UTC
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不是,是你这种目的本末倒置
- Author: Feisty-Ad-4249
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:41:29 UTC
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如果读博对润有不小的帮助,那还是应该读
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:42:14 UTC
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我持反对意见
- Author: Feisty-Ad-4249
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:51:53 UTC
- Score: -1
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请细说
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:53:06 UTC
- Score: 7
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这不明摆着的么?真以为PhD就是进去混日子啊?
- Author: Feisty-Ad-4249
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:54:52 UTC
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没有啊。但是不至于认真读不给过吧
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:55:33 UTC
- Score: 7
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PhD急需个人天赋+运气不能差
- Author: duliri
- Created: 2024-08-01 04:39:05 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: lfxgo54
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无法毕业的博士太多了,墙国博士毕业率最近都只有50%左右, 米国不过关的只多不少
- Author: Jazzz_Lee
- Created: 2024-08-01 09:12:53 UTC
- Score: 6
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“读”博士其实就有偏差了,PhD关键是符合毕业要求的期刊论文能不能发得出来,博士几乎是没有什么课程的(至少日本是这样
- Author: Valuable_Group_4715
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:47:34 UTC
- Score: 7
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我不知道你的background,但是如果你抱着润的目的读博,我觉得你的博士会读的很痛苦,能不能毕业都不好说
- Author: Feisty-Ad-4249
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:51:32 UTC
- Score: 1
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事实上我这两年就挺痛苦的了
- Author: Feisty-Ad-4249
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:52:27 UTC
- Score: 0
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据我了解欧洲那边回报率是大于北美的?
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:52:44 UTC
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是的,英国瑞士除外
- Author: Feisty-Ad-4249
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:54:03 UTC
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我法国北欧为主,是套磁直接申博,还是先读完英授硕之后再考虑
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:54:56 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: lfwulo4
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读谁的博士就去谁那读硕士
- Author: Feisty-Ad-4249
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:56:45 UTC
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现在的问题是我研究型硕士估计没资格,而且小语种完全没学,估计只能考虑英语授课硕士的项目
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 01:58:46 UTC
- Score: 5
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都出国了还搁这研究型硕士呢?真以为国外和国内那样搞学硕和专硕?国外硕士本地人基本都读授课型的,几乎没有研究型的。或者这么说,硕士级别的课,要么在4年制本科的大四上一大堆,要么在3年制本科结束后的2年制授课硕上更多的一堆。没见过谁在2年制授课硕毕业后接着读2年制研究硕。国外的牛逼本地人是就业而不是继续读上去。
- Author: Feisty-Ad-4249
- Created: 2024-08-01 02:02:05 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: lfwvoko
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这个划分是存在的,我在澳洲八大的官网上见过。不过你这么说我倒是能放心一些,我之前担心授课型硕士含金量偏低
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 02:02:27 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: lfwvqj0
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澳洲是个例外,我刚说的是欧洲的情况。
- Author: duliri
- Created: 2024-08-01 04:34:28 UTC
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你可以说研究型硕士少,但是不能说没有。 这一点墙内也一样,专硕多,学硕少。墙内外区别更大的是墙内的保研直博比例非常高。米国的直博申请其实难度很大
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 04:35:17 UTC
- Score: 2
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美国牛逼的本地白人学生本科一般就就业谁一窝蜂读博啊?嗯?放眼望去美国PhD一堆中国人。
- Author: duliri
- Created: 2024-08-01 05:12:11 UTC
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我不知道你说的一堆比例是多少, 实际上热门专业比如CS/AI这些专业,中国人的比例很低。如果你说基础学科 , 物理化学生物这些中国人可能2-3成有的。但是我不知道你是否申请过国外的博士,我是有过经验的,硕博混申,博士的offer中签率连硕士的10%都没有(同等水平)
毕竟读硕士尤其是授课型硕士你给钱给学校,而读博是学校给钱给你, 这个差别太大了
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- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 05:13:40 UTC
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美博,陆本本来就是不好申的,好申的情况也是因为招不到本地人。这些很多人都知道。
- Author: duliri
- Created: 2024-08-01 05:17:42 UTC
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对呀,我说的就是这个意思啊。OP虽然没介绍,但是我觉得他大概率是陆本。这就是我说的直博其实很难,别太寄予厚望(他要真的是美本校内就能找导师陶瓷或请写推荐信,不需要这里问了)。
对于绝大部分人来说,还是先硕士再博士比较靠谱。尤其是学术型硕士可以先提前体验一下科研怎么回事。
没有经历过的人不知道博士意味着什么,真以为和硕士本科一样考个试就毕业了
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 05:19:18 UTC
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国外的硕士是正常的,国内的硕士不论专硕还是学硕,说实话我还是没搞清楚这是要干什么,硕士元素少,更像小博士。
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 05:20:35 UTC
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还有你这个授课型硕士给钱到学校,这个观点你最好丢掉,这本来就是国外正常升学路径之一(澳洲办学是个另类不在讨论范围)。研究型那种小博士才是少数,学习好的本地白人一般不会申请这种几乎没有的硕士。
- Author: duliri
- Created: 2024-08-01 05:26:18 UTC
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我不理解你跟我在argue啥,授课型硕士难道不是给钱给学校吗?研究型是少数我也之前说了呀。这点墙国和米国一样,都是专硕(授课型或就业型)多,学硕少。国外的直博很难很难申请(相比于硕士)。我的这些观点哪个有问题?
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 05:29:58 UTC
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- ID: lfxm5as
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存在的问题我已经很明确地指出了,国外的授课型硕士,上的是最高难度的课,谁TMD不上这个高难度的课直接搞研究?国外的授课型硕士能比国外的本科大四多修好几门最高难度的课。
- Author: duliri
- Created: 2024-08-01 05:32:57 UTC
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你这个人真的莫名其妙,我全篇文章说过授课型硕士的课程难度问题吗?我只是说了申请难度远远低于直博。算了,拉黑了,遇到脑子不好没逻辑的人真难泵
- Author: uie06
- Created: 2024-08-01 09:27:18 UTC
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- ID: lfy7ue0
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加拿大本来就分course based 和thesis based 啊。学费差很多
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 09:41:11 UTC
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正常的是course based,thesis based本质上是个小博士。
- Author: Big_Strawberry_4084
- Created: 2024-08-01 13:54:31 UTC
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thesis based基本上读完就要接着读博,不然没有太大意义
- Author: uie06
- Created: 2024-08-01 15:54:06 UTC
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- ID: lfzqzu3
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懂哥求指点 为了便宜打算去一个thesis硕 完全不想读本项目的博 纯论文硕找工市场很不友好吗(选课系统里其实可以选到相应course 项目的practicum 但是好像没coop的项目也没工签…
- Author: Big_Strawberry_4084
- Created: 2024-08-01 17:12:24 UTC
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Thesis based就是类似国内的学硕,大部分纯做研究课题的,你读了不读博跟coursed based没有太大区别(企业大多本就不看你写什么文章只看工作经验,高校或者研究机构你没博士头衔连简历初筛都不一定过得了),除非你回国,回国就有差别
- Author: uie06
- Created: 2024-08-01 17:14:15 UTC
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我一直很好奇 在lab里面打工或者ra可以算work experience 吗😭
- Author: Big_Strawberry_4084
- Created: 2024-08-01 17:20:27 UTC
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Lab的可以算,但是你要写明白你干什么活(不是洗烧杯这类,而是工作内容,检测什么,结果如何,最好流程写清楚)。RA不认
- Author: uie06
- Created: 2024-08-01 17:40:37 UTC
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了解 谢谢老哥🙏
- Author: Dinadusiu1221
- Created: 2024-08-01 12:41:54 UTC
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乱讲😓MPhil和MRes难道算授课吗?
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-08 09:23:56 UTC
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- ID: lh2xc55
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我不是这个意思。。
- Author: uie06
- Created: 2024-08-01 09:28:00 UTC
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为什么研究硕都觉得选会觉得phd希望大呢
- Author: OriginalWinner8070
- Created: 2024-08-01 02:35:16 UTC
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什么专业
- Author: Feisty-Ad-4249
- Created: 2024-08-01 02:36:07 UTC
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海洋(欧美叫地球科学)相关专业
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2024-08-01 05:34:04 UTC
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- ID: lfxmkeh
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回复那个拉黑我的:什么授课型硕士申请难度,这就是本地人正常升学途径,不要搞些奇奇怪怪的路径。
- Author: Many-Ad5199
- Created: 2024-08-01 06:17:12 UTC
- Score: 4
- ID: lfxqtv5
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读博得看自己喜不喜欢做学术吧 而且至少3年起步 让我去读博真的生不如死
- Author: ApartAd9307
- Created: 2024-08-01 08:40:35 UTC
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- ID: lfy3rx3
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难绷,OP咋被an了
- Author: Big_Strawberry_4084
- Created: 2024-08-01 13:56:28 UTC
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- ID: lfz5jar
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读博你先考虑怎么毕业吧,老外稍微好点学校毕业要求跟国内985是看齐的
- Author: Double-Steak4321
- Created: 2024-08-01 16:19:00 UTC
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- ID: lfzvos9
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直博想去套辭怎麼也需要本科有點科研經驗吧,不管水不水
- Author: Glum-Solid-8200
- Created: 2024-08-02 00:39:21 UTC
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有科研项目和论文