目前在国内二线大厂工作9年,托福刚考出来90分,国内环境太卷太累了也没买房,想润,各位大神们有推荐的路线和目的地吗


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这你得问专家立党老师,建议推特连线他。我能给的建议就是缅北迪拜和菲律宾了。

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  • Created: 2024-11-19 09:29:33 UTC
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不润才是大智慧

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  • Created: 2024-11-19 10:58:49 UTC
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只有日本和欧洲好润,美国关门了,加拿大这个年龄分全扣了而且加拿大IT就业极度内卷,不过去欧洲日本还要降薪

  • Author: BigDogKing
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美国关门了是指?

  • Author: MPM_SOLVER
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川普上台了,而且民主党时期美国也超难润

  • Author: That-Sherbert4606
  • Created: 2024-11-19 21:49:54 UTC
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走线现在不能走了

  • Author: MonkeyCoder128
  • Created: 2024-11-19 10:59:06 UTC
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出去转行才行

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-19 11:58:21 UTC
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转什么有推荐吗

  • Author: MonkeyCoder128
  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:07:10 UTC
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蓝领呗,身体没问题就行。

  • Author: Kejihenhuo
  • Created: 2024-11-19 11:36:15 UTC
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润什么润?你在国内的时候意识不到自己作为主体民族所享受到的隐形红利。人生最大的快乐无非食色,而在国外很少有地道的中餐,连盒饭都买不到,更别提各种烟火气街头小吃了,而异性交往体验也会因为种族审美不同而大幅下降。国外真正好的是汇率差,却像是在沙漠里挖黄金,黄金在沙漠里买不到水的。。。

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-19 11:40:49 UTC
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马上35岁退休了,失业后更被动咋办

  • Author: Kejihenhuo
  • Created: 2024-11-19 12:20:04 UTC
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工作种类那么多,干什么不能活啊?国外这几年也不景气,工资不涨物价涨两倍,大厂也都在裁员。你结婚生子了吗?

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-19 13:57:51 UTC
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结婚了没孩子,看来都不好搞

  • Author: Kejihenhuo
  • Created: 2024-11-19 15:55:32 UTC
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婚姻稳定吗?你和她一起润,她完全可以找个老外结婚拿绿卡,你就变成太监了

  • Author: Flashy_Effect_9170
  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:15:59 UTC
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你的托福90分国内二线大厂九年工作经验,年龄和语言是一个非常大的硬伤。

假设你的预算很有限,没有办法负担移民的支出,那你最好的选择是直接找香港新加坡或者马来西亚泰国的工作。你国内的工作经历别人认,同时对语言的要求又不是特别高

现在欧洲的收入和物价房价比,简直就是杯水车薪。如果一定要来的话,最好抱着存不了钱的心态来,毕竟租房骑车上下班在这边很正常。

不过你要是有钱,吃到了过去几年互联网的红利,自然是哪儿待着舒服去哪

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:22:56 UTC
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谢谢解答,硬伤确实是,预算也不是很多,只有一两百万,直接移民感觉是不太可能,可以接受去留学。这种情况是否可以考虑美国呢

  • Author: Flashy_Effect_9170
  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:28:37 UTC
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你有打算花掉积蓄的话那确实可以。

我相信二线大厂员工的employability,不过需要考虑清楚:你毕业以后的年龄问题;到时候美国的移民政策就业政策会不会更加限制。

现在世界右转的倾向非常明显,首当其冲就是欧美变得反移民了,在美国还要叠加一个反华,建议你仔细考虑后再下决定。

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:29:55 UTC
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明白了,感谢解答!

  • Author: SHChan1986
  • Created: 2024-11-19 17:04:39 UTC
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去美國讀書當然可以, 打算靠讀書留下工作就是幻想了.

  • Author: SHChan1986
  • Created: 2024-11-19 17:04:13 UTC
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去日本南韓也okay

不太建議樓主去歐洲.

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-20 03:08:26 UTC
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欧洲主要是哪里不太行

  • Author: SHChan1986
  • Created: 2024-11-20 08:38:29 UTC
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Language & Culture + additional time cost for required study

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除非转行。

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-19 11:58:25 UTC
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转什么有推荐吗

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  • Created: 2024-11-19 12:35:00 UTC
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你做那块的开发 大厂是阿里 支付宝这种?

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-19 13:57:22 UTC
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差不多是这样

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  • Created: 2024-11-19 22:52:19 UTC
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后端?

  • Author: BigDogKing
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是的,后端

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那可以看看欧洲这边

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碼? 印度啊

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-19 13:58:37 UTC
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哥,不闹

  • Author: kyk00525
  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:33:56 UTC
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你要堅持碼就真的印度東南亞 就算不是現在估計以後大部分都外包到那了 你要轉行你要不看看現在在國內肯不肯做藍領苦工🙃

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  • Created: 2024-11-19 13:55:36 UTC
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9年IT,32岁工作应该不用担心。

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-19 13:58:19 UTC
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你是说润起来工作不用担心吗

  • Author: Initial_Ad_5913
  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:06:27 UTC
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有9年 IT经验,还是相对紧缺的。当然具体还要看专业,如果是嵌入什么的,那就别来了。

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嵌入式不推荐?

  • Author: Initial_Ad_5913
  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:13:08 UTC
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如果是扎扎实实9年代码经验,语言没问题,那是很好找工作的。但我见过几个据说是大厂出来的中国人,然后在加拿大读完大专找工作,他们的真实IT经验几乎为零。只有一堆乱七八糟的学校projects,能找到工作是见鬼了。

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:14:48 UTC
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是扎实的,口语不是很流利,但是可以练。润美国可行吗,要留学是吧

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  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:23:35 UTC
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我不是移民砖家,怎样拿工签不太了解。只知道这行业一直缺有经验的,也不太好找人。我身边做底层的老人家们,没一个下岗。也看不出他们能被轻易替换的可能。

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:30:09 UTC
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谢谢解答

  • Author: gundam1945
  • Created: 2024-11-20 02:00:26 UTC
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如果你潤的目標是拿永居,美國可能不是很好的目標,現在很多大廠國人都拿不到,更何況這四年是川普,天知道會發生什麼事。

  • Author: Humble-Demand-5836
  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:46:21 UTC
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可以再学日语,日语n3估计就够了,日本it好找。欧陆其实也可润,尤其是德国英语大部分不错,其他国家英语也好,都不需要额外学语言

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-19 14:47:46 UTC
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欧陆也有考虑,推荐哪几个

  • Author: sorrow4012
  • Created: 2024-11-20 04:20:58 UTC
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狗都不去日本,去日本经验甚至不如国内。学学英语往五眼国家跑吧,可能需要读个书。

  • Author: MFeee_
  • Created: 2024-11-22 10:33:20 UTC
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建议瑞典,语言方面不用学小语种,他们那里英语普及率很高,其次移民政策是交四年税(三万克朗一个月是工签标准)就能转,说白了就是找到工作以后凑年限而已,比什么打分制舒服多了。为啥知道这些呢,因为我打算明年去

  • Author: Cultural-Ad-1460
  • Created: 2024-11-19 17:54:49 UTC
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前几年最好润的时候你干嘛去了😂😂

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-20 03:07:32 UTC
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你这么回答就没意义了,万能答案

  • Author: Amukdenian006
  • Created: 2024-11-19 21:07:41 UTC
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快速且违法,并且有可能被坑的路子:加拿大雇主担保

  • Author: SoftMost101
  • Created: 2024-11-19 21:18:31 UTC
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你这基本都行吧。读两年的硕士,越水越好,一进去就找实习,拿return,秋招再看看能找到更好的吗。技术岗 口语不用好,会写代码,能照着谷歌翻译看懂就行。

  • Author: BigDogKing
  • Created: 2024-11-20 03:09:59 UTC
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实习可能直接转正是吗

  • Author: SoftMost101
  • Created: 2024-11-20 13:32:57 UTC
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实习然后拿一年后入职offer,很多大公司应届生都是这么招来的,不是直接招

  • Author: Turbulent_Guitar5765
  • Created: 2024-11-25 01:54:31 UTC
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这套2021可以的,现在没戏了。简历直接筛了,满街大厂layoff 5+yoe的,要一个水校第三世界yoe的?简直疯了。前两年转码的现在都拼了老命的在那里卷呢,还不谈大厂码农家属云云。

  • Author: Internal_Chemist_132
  • Created: 2024-11-20 04:04:15 UTC
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以献代润,两难自解