为什么德国留学生留下来的少，9成的都回国了

犹豫要不要来

Author: Ok-Grapefruit4589
Created: 2024-11-28 04:43:03 UTC
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请问哪里的数据

Author: pigeon_reborn
Created: 2024-11-28 04:43:43 UTC
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表面上和你友好打招呼和愿意与你长期共事是两回事

Author: whyyouubullyme
Created: 2024-11-28 05:10:41 UTC
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德国算留下的多的了，你看哪个国家的留学生留下来的有多的？

Author: ExcellentFox6
Created: 2024-11-28 09:41:16 UTC
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家鄉日本

Author: whyyouubullyme
Created: 2024-11-29 05:17:41 UTC
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不愧是家乡😭但是家乡现在高新产业也没啥创新，工资感觉在发达国家里来说太低了

Author: ExcellentFox6
Created: 2024-11-29 05:19:40 UTC
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物價和房價也是在G7裡面墊底的，普通社畜也可以天天外食嗯吃，而且租房買房不需要考慮治安問題，怎麼便宜怎麼方便怎麼來

Author: whyyouubullyme
Created: 2024-11-29 05:28:36 UTC
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日本确实不错，但我是干IT的，不然可能真认真考虑去了，日本IT感觉干个10年也不会有啥进步，但是我们这一行也没法躺平啊，哎

Author: ExcellentFox6
Created: 2024-11-29 05:33:53 UTC
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如果你技術高的話，能卷進日本頂級IT公司的話，一樣可以做人上人，而且裁員風險比歐美低

Author: whyyouubullyme
Created: 2024-11-29 06:14:46 UTC
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技术不高啊，就中游平均水平…

Author: TodayAshamed6905
Created: 2025-02-02 07:15:02 UTC
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没那样的好事。去德国吧

Author: SHChan1986
Created: 2024-11-29 12:24:22 UTC
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很多人沒有搞懂, 這年頭移民去由移民組成的移民國家, 比移民去非移民國家的代價更高/還難.

Author: ExcellentFox6
Created: 2024-11-29 12:39:41 UTC
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是的，還有很多以非法移民的身分滯留在這些國家的人不僅覺得很自豪，甚至還去嘲笑那些試圖合法移民但失敗的人

Author: SHChan1986
Created: 2024-11-29 12:43:00 UTC
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這類不用多理, 直接等trump動手即可.

Author: SHChan1986
Created: 2024-11-29 12:33:26 UTC
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看了看數據, 還是德國比日本稍高. 不過估計在德國五年沒讀完的比例比日本高, 總體估計相差不遠.
P.S. [OECD immigration outlook 2022, international student retention]
Stay rates in 2020 of Chinese, Indian, and all permit holders with first education permit in 2015:
|| || ||All|China|India| |Canada|64|76|91| |Germany|63|52|76| |Australia|48|43|81| |New Zealand|46|51|74| |Japan|39|44|38| |United Kingdom|16|13|17|

Author: SHChan1986
Created: 2024-11-29 12:33:44 UTC
Score: 1
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看了看數據, 還是德國比日本稍高. 不過估計在德國五年沒讀完的比例比日本高, 總體估計相差不遠.
P.S. [OECD immigration outlook 2022, international student retention]
Stay rates in 2020 of Chinese, Indian, and all permit holders with first education permit in 2015:
|| || ||All|China|India| |Canada|64|76|91| |Germany|63|52|76| |Australia|48|43|81| |New Zealand|46|51|74| |Japan|39|44|38| |United Kingdom|16|13|17|

Author: Bayesian11
Created: 2024-12-15 07:44:48 UTC
Score: 1
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good point

Author: SHChan1986
Created: 2024-11-29 12:33:55 UTC
Score: 1
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看了看數據, 還是德國比日本稍高. 不過估計在德國五年沒讀完的比例比日本高, 總體估計相差不遠.
P.S. [OECD immigration outlook 2022, international student retention]
Stay rates in 2020 of Chinese, Indian, and all permit holders with first education permit in 2015:
|| || ||All|China|India| |Canada|64|76|91| |Germany|63|52|76| |Australia|48|43|81| |New Zealand|46|51|74| |Japan|39|44|38| |United Kingdom|16|13|17|

Author: SHChan1986
Created: 2024-11-29 12:35:47 UTC
Score: 1
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看了看數據, 還是德國比日本稍高. 不過估計在德國五年沒讀完的比例比日本高, 總體估計相差不遠.
P.S. [OECD immigration outlook 2022, international student retention]
Stay rates in 2020 of Chinese, Indian, and all permit holders with first education permit in 2015:
All Chinese Indian
Canada 64 76 91
Germany 63 52 76
Australia 48 43 81
New Zealand 46 51 74
Japan 39 44 38
United Kingdom 16 13 17

Author: lawes007
Created: 2024-11-28 05:13:55 UTC
Score: 21
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又不是移民国家，为什么你觉得能留下来？

Author: KoalaIllustrious2080
Created: 2024-11-28 15:14:52 UTC
Score: 1
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德国不是移民国家吗？三年绿卡五年入籍，欧盟里面德国已经算很好润的了。

Author: SHChan1986
Created: 2024-11-28 19:44:07 UTC
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很多刻求劍的人以為是移民組成的移民國家就會容易移民.
有這類水平的誤解直接恥笑即可.

Author: Puzzleheaded_Fan_391
Created: 2024-11-28 05:40:47 UTC
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ausländer raus!

Author: MPM_SOLVER
Created: 2024-11-28 05:58:33 UTC
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德语太难学了，要学好久，润非英语国家都有这个门槛

Author: Major_Leopard_7588
Created: 2024-11-28 07:03:55 UTC
Score: 4
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哪来的数据

Author: Hollande_Uranus
Created: 2024-11-28 07:20:18 UTC
Score: 8
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学工签转化率显示，回国的是8成多点，不到9成

Author: SHChan1986
Created: 2024-11-28 14:13:13 UTC
Score: 2
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留下的又不一定是學簽直接轉化為工簽的.
舉個例, 德國畢業了先拿個18個月的Job Seeker Visa, 做了一段時間再申工簽估計更常見.
換了是英國, 畢業了先拿個2年PSW, 做了一段時間再申tier 2也很合理.

Author: Hollande_Uranus
Created: 2024-11-28 14:28:37 UTC
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嗯

Author: Particular_Meat9683
Created: 2024-12-02 19:03:25 UTC
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已经不错了，有人计算过美国留学生靠工作留下来拿到绿卡的约2%

Author: Tricky-Victory-1299
Created: 2024-11-28 08:06:57 UTC
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不能润的留学都是耍流氓

Author: PsychologicalLoan382
Created: 2024-11-28 11:31:00 UTC
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身在大中不知大

Author: Holiday-Instruction4
Created: 2024-11-30 01:53:10 UTC
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你怎么知道那些送中的小留，是不愿意留在德国还是找不到工作被迫送中？这是两回事

Author: OdinZhang666
Created: 2024-11-30 12:21:43 UTC
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我就认识个说国内能找到工作直接退学回国的，我是能找到工作直接退学留下就行

Author: Bayesian11
Created: 2024-12-15 07:45:56 UTC
Score: 1
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生活压抑，发展局限，工资不高，歧视严重，天气也很差