说的时候自己听起来没啥问题，但是听录音感觉自己中文口音好重，说话声音还巨难听

  • Author: yysmer
  • Created: 2025-01-31 05:18:19 UTC
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学音标

  • Author: Dizzy-Fish1657
  • Created: 2025-01-31 05:25:49 UTC
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嗯，确实没有系统学过音标

  • Author: yysmer
  • Created: 2025-01-31 05:42:02 UTC
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Youtube上面sounds american这个频道视频都过一遍，会有巨大提升

  • Author: Dizzy-Fish1657
  • Created: 2025-01-31 05:42:52 UTC
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我去看看，谢谢！

  • Author: panpiren
  • Created: 2025-01-31 05:42:32 UTC
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口音问题不是成年后学音标能解决的，太多人的唇齿喉在生理上已经很难做出正确发音了

  • Author: yysmer
  • Created: 2025-01-31 06:58:43 UTC
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这你就瞎扯了，发音都是可以慢慢改的，成年后认真学的话虽然达不到native，接近native还是可以的

  • Author: panpiren
  • Created: 2025-01-31 15:19:51 UTC
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“认真学”是一个空话，就好比说任何人通过视唱练耳都能唱歌唱得好听一样，就我个人来说我至今都无法保证正确的读family，summer，stronger这种鼻音在中间的词，甚至我都没法快速辨识对面是否对的

  • Author: yysmer
  • Created: 2025-01-31 15:28:02 UTC
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那你语言天赋是比较差了，我也是成年后才开始改发音，目前英语里面没有发音困难的音了。不过你这个观点是对的，这个和语言天赋可能也有很大关系，我在小红书碰到的一个人我怎么教她发音都教不会。

  • Author: panpiren
  • Created: 2025-01-31 16:13:53 UTC
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对啊，我就是在说这个，那么多人连接近标准的普通话都说不利索，能不能学好英语发音基本就是赌自己运气

  • Author: whatanywayever
  • Created: 2025-01-31 05:19:13 UTC
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事有轻重缓急，先把流利度，内容清晰度和逻辑度提上来，再来考虑口音的事

  • Author: Dizzy-Fish1657
  • Created: 2025-01-31 05:28:50 UTC
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我口语还行，去年考的雅思口语6.5，和当地人对话基本没什么太大问题。就是听录音时候感觉自己口音太重了，而且我说中文时候声音听起来也特别难听

  • Author: Old-Salamander8931
  • Created: 2025-01-31 06:48:40 UTC
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“我口语还行，去年考的雅思口语6.5”，雅思这种针对非英语母语人的考试，口语没到8.5以上都别说自己口语还行

  • Author: Specialist-Dig7903
  • Created: 2025-01-31 13:50:31 UTC
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就这逆天评论还有这么多人点赞，可见中国人普遍文化还是过低了，压根就都没考过雅思，可笑，我这辈子少说看过上百个中国人雅思成绩了，口语8.0的凤毛麟角，8.5一个没有，评论区不可能有考过口语8.5的

  • Author: Old-Salamander8931
  • Created: 2025-01-31 14:03:27 UTC
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我裸考8.0，日常工作生活还是会觉得口语不够 :)

  • Author: Old-Salamander8931
  • Created: 2025-01-31 14:29:07 UTC
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这种给“外国人”考的英语考试的成绩本来就参考价值不大，口语6.5觉得不错，跟local沟通你觉得对方是认为你是外国人耐着性子跟你说话，还是对方真觉得你口语不错？口语也不只是口音，还有表达方式、词汇、逻辑结构，北美华人多的地方都有各种针对华人小孩“辩论学院”，这些人从小英语就是母语，还要学怎么表达自己的想法怎么构思表述逻辑，你觉得这些当地长大的华人小孩口语不好吗？这些华人小孩会觉得自己英语表述能力足够吗？老是用一种“英语不是我的母语，我说得差不多了”这种心态对待英语的口语能力就是一种自我欺骗（小留除外），口语能力也不只是口音、说话流畅不流畅这些在雅思考试中衡量的东西。和别人沟通的时候意见不一样，能不能委婉的把自己的想法说出来说服对方？公司部门周会迎接新同事，轮到你发言了场面的客套话会不会说？工作三年的同事离职了，大家一起发祝福的贺卡祝福的话会不会写？拿个“雅思口语”多少多少分来说自己口语怎么怎么样太好笑了

  • Author: Minmum-Verstappen
  • Created: 2025-01-31 08:30:24 UTC
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6.5还行没绷住

  • Author: biglarsh
  • Created: 2025-01-31 16:04:57 UTC
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很多印度人非常流利但是口音難以避免。我口語8.0大多時候初次見面的人都有點不確定我哪裡來的，久了就知道我不是本地。改口音需要特定訓練，6.5還是要在文法詞彙和運用下努力。

  • Author: Dizzy-Fish1657
  • Created: 2025-01-31 16:32:39 UTC
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好吧…我是有点口吃，一紧张就口吃，说中文时候也会，感觉能考到6.5对我已经很不错了

  • Author: Amukdenian006
  • Created: 2025-01-31 05:31:06 UTC
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一般英语口音都是和母语挂钩的，不知道楼主普通话口音重不重 有专门的纠音课，一般大学语言班都有 没必要过分纠结口音，大学教授的英语口音五花八门，不耽误他们是phd

  • Author: Dizzy-Fish1657
  • Created: 2025-01-31 05:38:55 UTC
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我自己感觉普通话没什么口音，但是别人一听就能听出我家是哪的。主要是有时候听到自己说话的录音感觉真的好难听

  • Author: No-Technician-3427
  • Created: 2025-01-31 06:06:13 UTC
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是东北人吗？

  • Author: Dizzy-Fish1657
  • Created: 2025-01-31 06:07:13 UTC
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不是，江浙的

  • Author: SorryMathematician90
  • Created: 2025-01-31 08:31:31 UTC
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真实，就怕听到自己的录音，哈哈

  • Author: Amukdenian006
  • Created: 2025-01-31 14:05:10 UTC
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那就是小时候普通话没学好，不过江浙人普遍说英语还行啊，总比把the念成ze强啊

  • Author: Right_Security_4364
  • Created: 2025-03-13 10:04:02 UTC
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一样哈哈哈哈

  • Author: aerowindwalker
  • Created: 2025-01-31 06:15:00 UTC
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不太能 发音的肌肉在12岁以后就不会发育了 很多中国人说英语有口音并不是不明白怎么发音 而是对应的发音肌肉群没有发育导致的

  • Author: Miserable-Avocado150
  • Created: 2025-01-31 06:36:20 UTC
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口音的話，我覺得主要是大量輸入

我二十多歲才開始學法文，一開始也被法國人說我的口音很重像是用英文講法文，慢慢地潛移默化和持續大量輸入就改善了一些。

  • Author: BernardShaw0
  • Created: 2025-01-31 06:41:04 UTC
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有个手机app叫elsa，专注于发音

  • Author: Kath_latt
  • Created: 2025-01-31 08:00:38 UTC
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每天大量听英语 然后自己练习 想说啥都行 录音然后回放 时间长了会有改善

  • Author: DucklingQwQ
  • Created: 2025-01-31 08:33:08 UTC
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可以看看發音課，摸索一下發音位置，我自己來說，我發音位置不一樣口音也不一樣😂

  • Author: Final-Maintenance195
  • Created: 2025-01-31 10:25:36 UTC
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UCLA Lisa American accent course

  • Author: heli_for_tankies
  • Created: 2025-01-31 10:52:10 UTC
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如果在美国，那不需要改善，因为美国除非打算奋斗做大公司高管，其余职位一律不在意口音。

如果在英国，则用左逼反歧视的借口来威胁重视口音的老英，老英很吃这一套。

其他一样的左逼国家也一律可以这样做。

  • Author: Dizzy-Fish1657
  • Created: 2025-01-31 16:46:03 UTC
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其实是自己听录音感觉，其他人甚至没有提到过我有口音的事情

  • Author: Savings-Elk4387
  • Created: 2025-01-31 14:28:37 UTC
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没人care

  • Author: SnooDoughnuts9428
  • Created: 2025-02-01 00:29:26 UTC
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https://beyondlanguagelearning.com/2020/07/07/answering-readers-questions-about-language-acquisition-alg-approach/

What I found was by just listening a lot to my target languages first, I could start to get a feel for what kind of speaking would be natural at the stage I was at and what would be forced speaking. With Thai, over time I started to hear the language in general more and more clearly, and in particular I heard words that I had heard and understood a lot in context much more clearly. Then these would start to “pop up”, or come to mind automatically, in situations where it would be natural to say them. This started with things like greetings, “yes/no” answers, and numbers, then more words and very simple phrases, then it grew to longer sentences. So speaking emerges gradually based on input, not all at once, although there might be dramatic leaps in some cases. Basically one should stick to what just comes to mind, what’s just “there”, rather than trying to consciously contrive language.

结合原典法，Dr J Marvin Brown的自传，ALG博客等，

感觉有几点要注意，自然习得 与 从读写入手外语学习 是反着来的，正常顺序是大量的听，刚开始的时候有许多不懂，没事，当成音乐听，保持像孩子一样敏感，有好奇心；第二阶段才是说理解提升与说些简单的内容。第三阶段才开始学会阅读与写作，随之年龄成长学会更多抽象的表达。

我觉得最大的问题是听的不足，局限于自己的舒适区，不肯接受自己有不懂的区域，听不足就开口练习说（自己有理解，真实语料的听力至少有2000小时比较好）。听的多了，同时融入注意有视频片段的发音口型（新闻，电视剧，保存下来，重复听重复看），音调，发音的知识，再说口语，就比较容易学习了。

我还发现自己英文阅读速度和理解的是通过大量被动听提升的，尤其是整天听不同类型的有声书（主要听力材料），新闻，podcast，再说看剧。有时重复听一本书，查辞典，确保能有八九成理解，注意发音，这时候部分口语提升了。但还是需要看些发音教程辅助（注意用国际音标，kk音标有些发音方式没细写出来），做易混音，词对比。

  • Author: Eternity_27
  • Created: 2025-02-01 14:42:03 UTC
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根本没必要，人家烙印口音比中国人重多了，照样当CEO。你能表达清楚，逻辑清晰，了解本地的段子和梗，比口音重要多了。

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