鼠鼠是985cs的大四生，绩点大概3.6/5，想要润出去，家里估计拿不出太多支持，所以想走个花费尽量少的路，读研或工作都可以。但是信息比较闭塞，了解到的信息都是现今润出去的门槛越来越高，无奈只能来求求老哥们给些高见。我只粗略逛了一下这个sub，有些不得当的地方，或者没有描述清楚的地方，请老哥们轻喷。

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我润的时候情况跟你类似，绩点比你低。没花钱，通过master留学润了法国，不过是十几年前。

现在法国公立学校要收学费，不过一年也就两三千欧最多，远比五眼国家低。最关键是法国留学毕业直接给一年的时间找工作，不论什么专业什么学校。只要能找到工作就一定给工签（不看语言成绩，不看专业，不用转蓝领，不卡中国人身份），工作2年以上可以拿长居或国籍。哪怕找不到工作，还可以通过法国的商业居留留在法国。

在法国这么多年，我就不认识一个想留下来的润人却留不下来的，哪怕是学艺术学野鸡大学商科的。

更多我的分享post可以看 r/runtoEurope，也可以看看润欧sub r/runEuropaAlliance

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感谢老哥！

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老哥，我在纠结法语路线和德语路线。法语路线是选择多些，除了法国还有加拿大可以选，德语路线好像是对it移民更友好。请问您有什么建议么？感谢感谢！

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Choose the country you like more.

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你先过去读语言班几个月看看喜不喜欢这个国家再说。不要单凭感觉，因为这个体验1年和3年是不一样的。要仔细分析每个指标

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英语词汇量较大的话，法语比德语要好学一些。英语词汇一半以上来自法语，尤其各行业高级词汇。

法语语法也比德语容易一点。法国中学生选二外很多都是避开德语的，对欧洲人也难

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德语除了德国也还有奥地利和瑞士。会德语拿到法国国籍然后二润瑞士也可以的。不过瑞士对我个人没太大吸引力，仅供参考

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看宏觀數據是德國比法國稍好就業, 但能不能用那個語言工作makes a much bigger difference. you are not comparing Netherlands with Spain.

找一個你相對喜歡的, 會更易掌握那個語言, 這才是核心競爭力.

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学了法语，然后拿下加拿大和法国护照，然后南下去美挣大钱，

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干两年攒钱读个水硕润吧。国内偏爱应届生，国外偏爱3年经验的。

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这个非常中肯了，建议还是在国内工作几年再出来

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没错，我个人体验，0经验就算是在今年这个行情，在国内秋招都明显要比之前的海外容易

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这两年逆全球化盛行，要是能找到不影响身心健康的工作就干两年有钱了再出来呗，说不定那时候还更好移

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中肯

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法德日三選一, 苦練法德日語, 讀工科碩, 再努力卷實習etc.

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想学法语了，可以法国加拿大二选一，德语去德国好像也可以，在考虑中

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可以试试走线，有人花了2-3万人民币就到了

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危险系数太高，我觉得有学历在国内赚几年钱再想办法体面润，好过过去洗盘子打黑工

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到美国你就有自由，民主，人权了 这比钱好太多了，只要你肯干钱以后会有的。以后跑不出来怎么办？

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不太可能

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你是活在梦里吗，没钱有自由和人权有个p用，不还是活的跟狗一样

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确实国内先攒经验挣钱更好，但主要是你不知道几年后还能不能出得来。

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樓主有985本，想政庇就直接拿master offer申美簽落機就申請好了，用得著走線嗎？

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发送打倒习包子，转发到500个群美国就送你政治庇护啦，我试过是真的

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那人是个魔怔美利坚信徒，不用认真

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怎么做？给个活路。

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另, 不要純CS, 不要指望單靠SDE, 尤其是web.

get some specialized stuffs / cross-disciplinary stuffs.

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同意

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有具体的建议吗？感谢您的慷慨解答！

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there are be a long list, e.g.

- if you are good in maths, dig into AI research

- (not sure how much conern about nationality are there) but cybersecurity is still in demand

- imagine you are good in a seconary field, you can be a strong candidate in for example fintech, edutech, medtech or whatever

- (not sure how much conern about nationality are here again) imagine you have a ECE background and you have a competitive edge on hardware related stuffs, for say embedded software, coputer engnieering stuffs etc (which i dont know much about)

- a long list to go. think about that, info techis changing many discipline, from business analytics, financial technology, computational social science, even to digitial humanity. automation is the future.

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ECE最好带经验再出来，不然实习转正有点吃运气。AI还是算了，比SDE卷得多，这在哪都一样。金融科技？金融外国人几乎卷不进去。教育科技？教育不考虑外国人。医疗科技？生物医学工程是个坑，只有一丁点实习转正的几率。你确实不太懂这几个。

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生化环材，狗都不学

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哪樣都最好帶點經驗出來。這點從略。

AI那當然是卷，所以對於math+CS雙強的人來講是好事。夠難，門檻夠高，直接把水平不夠強的通通卷死。SDE沒那麼demanding, 要靠IQ靠死別人不那麼容易的。

搞金融和搞金融科技要的技術基本0不重合的。就像你去搞計量金融，最好別讀finance major。

教育有好一些部份比較local的是和教育制度相關，不過edutech多半不是搞這堆。更煩的其實可能是岡位真心少。

Medical tech你講的那點的確如是，更合適的其實是本科biomedical類再轉碼跳出來的, instead of vice versa。

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量化金融卷的程度和金融学差不多。我只知道航空金融或许不卷

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分別在卷的東西不一樣。除了都要basic finance knowledge 外：

general finance往往更要求communication, presentation, corporation之類soft skill.

但計量金融還是金融科技都好，更需賈的其實是你的math+stat+CS technical skill

卷前者是挺難鬥得過local的，但卷後者國際生的問題不大。問題其實還是回到競爭很大那點。最好IQ高+要名校。

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簡單點講，就是建議要CS +X

X can be another technical field like math/EE, 強methodology / hardware ，靠strong and board technical knowledge卷死對手

X can also be a strong application field, 有某行業的domain knowledge + IT skill, 在那個行業搞IT/automation/computational XXX有比只major X的IT強/比只major CS的更懂行業。

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后者也是极难的

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there are not easy path nowadays.

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量化本来就很难。

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cs 我个人建议你在国内找点工作存点钱 学点技术 不要有软件 可以试试运维 安全你肯定不行

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别来，现在美本美硕cs科班都找不到工作

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没戏了 等死吧