大四,男,专业为电子科学与技术,学校为山东大学,半年多前在隔壁iwanttorun的sub里看到了一个穷蛆双元制润德的帖子(23年3月的帖子),大概讲的是国内德语学到a1,然后通过德国的互惠生到德国去,在互惠生项目期间大概半年一年的时间德语练到b2,然后接双元制(职业培训),完事出来找工作实现润德。本人绩点浑浑噩噩在六十分上下跳,估计只有毕业证没学位证,家里的话可能最多只能给双元制质保金的十万(油管看到一个叫羊小村的博主提到双元制也是要十万,gpt也提到一年大概9万十万的质保金),这边被家人逼着考研如果不行(负反馈过多和心理压力导致不敢说哪怕确保考上个双非的同专业),找工作校招也不行的话(目前的形式越来越不行不敢赌绝对可以),是打算大四剩下来这半年先尽量学好(没有办法确定能具体到哪里,),然后本科毕业出来找不到工作的话就得忙着上面的方法出去了。想在这里求求各位润友的建议,看看这个方法的可行性啥的
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2025-09-18 15:42:58 UTC
- Score: 11
- ID: newm0m0
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德国都没去过,你确定那儿是你永久定居之地?先去那学几个月德语,注意观察细节。我知道有德国人,在德国实习找不着找了中国的实习。
- Author: InterestingBand9744
- Created: 2025-09-18 15:45:51 UTC
- Score: 16
- ID: newmmjw
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何必求人骂醒呢?你愿意去做就努力做好了。
- Author: PhilosophyQuirky465
- Created: 2025-09-18 16:51:45 UTC
- Score: 5
- ID: nex0fod
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先去做就行了,大忌就是事一点没干就想这想那的,
- Author: huaiyinren
- Created: 2025-09-18 17:18:36 UTC
- Score: 11
- ID: nex65fb
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凭啥觉得国内混不下去来德国就能混的下去?
- Author: According-Spell5132
- Created: 2025-09-18 22:47:22 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nez108e
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默认外国人善,外国是天堂。
- Author: SilkThreadZen
- Created: 2025-09-19 00:22:02 UTC
- Score: 9
- ID: nezh6ai
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凭啥觉得河南混不下去来江浙沪就能混的下去?
- Author: SeaVisit2085
- Created: 2025-09-19 01:36:10 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nezu02z
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+1 国内都没混明白的话 作为亚裔在欧洲只会更艰难 不过这种难不是同一种类型的难
- Author: DeliciousSubject8163
- Created: 2025-09-20 01:26:42 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nf6a4fo
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树挪死,人挪活,别想得那么绝对
- Author: godblessnoone
- Created: 2025-09-22 12:49:54 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nfl9v7w
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很久前我和我的家人也都是这样认为,直到我做外派来到别人眼中人间地狱的非洲工作,才觉得我这条路还是走对了。国内五六千,标准的混不下去,现在出国年薪二十多,你觉得我算不算混的下去?
- Author: godblessnoone
- Created: 2025-09-22 12:54:05 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nflakhj
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很久前我和我的家人也都是这样认为,直到我做外派来到别人眼中人间地狱的非洲工作,才觉得我这条路还是走对了。国内办公室文员一个月五六千,标准的混不下去,现在出国年薪二十多,你觉得我现在算不算混的下去?
我高中大学一直没放弃英语,丢了几年后拾起来依然能作为工作语言应用,但是英语在国内外贸萧条、外资撤退的背景下就是垃圾技能,没有任何附加值。同理还有很多技能,在国内都是一文不值,没发变现,只有走出去才能找到属于自己的舒适区。
- Author: DGHQ
- Created: 2025-09-22 21:59:30 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nfo8nog
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因为非洲发展程度不高,人均素质差,管你三七二十一的有技能的人过去工作就是香饽饽。但是想创业?那很地狱了
- Author: godblessnoone
- Created: 2025-09-23 10:54:36 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nfqufpv
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非洲创业难度看国家,我觉得非洲是比印度更有增长潜力的新兴市场,这边有的国家真的能看到未来
- Author: Full_Command1541
- Created: 2025-10-15 10:06:05 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: njlhdpr
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都翻墙了还这套说辞。。。
- Author: Deep-Contest-7718
- Created: 2025-09-18 17:27:29 UTC
- Score: -8
- ID: nex81s2
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润就得润美加澳,这欧洲就是一弱版China,没有任何润的意义,你能想象你一辈子开没屁股的车,再住一60平的房子,工资一大半要上税是什么样的日子吗。。
- Author: Deep-Contest-7718
- Created: 2025-09-18 17:28:54 UTC
- Score: -1
- ID: nex8cq7
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你到欧洲来看看, 看看这刨的一道一道又补上的路面,就明白这也是个仙之人兮列如麻的地方
- Author: Relevant_Horror6498
- Created: 2025-09-18 18:12:46 UTC
- Score: 0
- ID: nexhpkd
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大车更傻逼 一个交通工具本来就没必要那么大
- Author: Deep-Contest-7718
- Created: 2025-09-19 06:29:02 UTC
- Score: -2
- ID: nf105za
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有够支的言论,欧版的我现在也过地很好啊
- Author: Relevant_Horror6498
- Created: 2025-09-19 09:15:10 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nf1h5jc
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我就在北美 开皮卡的素质是最低的 还容易撞死人 实现也差 来这儿的老中最喜欢买皮卡和大型suv装逼 支不支啊
- Author: Deep-Contest-7718
- Created: 2025-09-19 13:30:03 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nf2glh6
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哥们,我在TX呆过八年,欧洲这是第二年,我本科到研究生都是TX上的,美国啥样不用你告诉我,你如果觉得开pickup的素质低,那开个老款Nissan altima的算啥?
- Author: Deep-Contest-7718
- Created: 2025-09-19 06:51:30 UTC
- Score: -1
- ID: nf12ml3
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欧洲哪个国家都知道美国梦,你听过法国梦德国梦意大利梦呢?这b地方生产资料不光被瓜分完了,而且凭借掌握法律法规的立法权确定了只要有新形式的生产资料都得先让old money分一杯羹,不然你这个活er直接干不下去。
- Author: Neat-Veterinarian-90
- Created: 2025-09-18 17:32:11 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nex92h3
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"互惠生"
是那种去别人家里住当帮工的吗?如果是的话,慎重。
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-18 23:36:25 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nez9ikp
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是的,不过原贴里这一步是为了尽快出来外加语言还没到b2,如果国内德语就想办法到b2的话可以直接申请双元制的公司和学校了(感觉还是得想办法旅游签先过来然后人在这里申请,面试的话方便一些)
- Author: Mark2046
- Created: 2025-09-19 07:20:03 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nf15nna
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b2很快的 你a2 过去两期就够了
- Author: Organic_Fig_6287
- Created: 2025-09-18 18:40:59 UTC
- Score: 28
- ID: nexnjze
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要么立马做,要么就别做,你想靠网友坚定你润的决心你不如托梦习近平让他鼓励你
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-18 23:48:51 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nezbmvd
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已经在做了,德语零零散散看了几个月,前天晚上和父母说了,父母表示现在硕士生招的比本科生还多,说我这样是不是很自废武功,表示不大愿意,吵架,现在心态烦躁,反正考研的事情一小会内没法看了(可以静下心来看德语和双元制职业培训相关的项目)
- Author: longliveMaLie
- Created: 2025-09-20 18:29:58 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nfaf071
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山大读双元制太可惜了,不如搞个英语授课研究生,认真一点两学期毕业,期间一样能干minijob,但德语肯定还要继续学。
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-20 23:30:05 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nfbxtkq
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了解谢谢建议,现在心态回来了继续回去考研秋招,一边看看德语,都不行再拉备用方案了
- Author: No-Hovercraft-7179
- Created: 2025-09-21 14:25:06 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nff8tma
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请问英语授课研究生需要雅思多少分,申请的话需要推荐信啥的吗,看重本科成绩吗
- Author: Several-Path-784
- Created: 2025-09-18 18:55:50 UTC
- Score: 5
- ID: nexqo8f
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你先开始学德语,或者找德国的交换项目体会体会,在国内进行条件假设没有任何意义
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-18 23:45:51 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nezb4f0
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德语在复习考研的间隙零零碎碎看了几个月了,从满眼瞎到现在理解段落结构和大概基本词汇了解,目前感觉还好有正反馈,不过我的确没去看过其他双元制职业培训之外的项目
- Author: Several-Path-784
- Created: 2025-09-19 05:58:33 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nf0wp6x
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那还差得远呢,所以建议直接找个什么交换项目先去德国体验一下,在国内学德语容易闭门造车,德语b2基本才算入门。语言解决了再看看生活方式是不适合,再讨论选择路径也不迟
- Author: Lumpy-Worldliness-77
- Created: 2025-09-18 22:40:54 UTC
- Score: 17
- ID: neyzvlh
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相信我,你来德国大概率结果是 1.德语b2以上: 本地中小企业it岗位,税后3000欧每月,leader白男,3点半差不多就消失了,你和你的印度同事完成70%以上的代码但是还是可以5点前离开公司,每个月存500欧,你热爱户外运动和健身,每周和留学生们玩一次桌游,德州和狼人杀,每周疯狂dating,由于你住单人间并且有钱有闲,所以你努努力还是可以找到稳定的另一半。
2.德语b1及以下:进入中资,税后2000欧,小leader是人还不错的理工男,你们是比较好的朋友和同事,大leader是国内派过来的工程师,会以中国总部70%的工作强度要求你们软性加班,甚至缺人手的时候会让你们去仓库搬东西。你大概每周工作50个小时,每个月几乎存不了钱而且你只能和留学生合租,你热爱和同事玩游戏,公司中午会经常玩王者荣耀和阿瓦隆,每周你会想办法用几款不同的dating app找新的妹妹但是又害怕被别人发现所以账号经常注销又注册。同事经常给你介绍女生但是你都看不上(女生请自动转换以上性别)。
以上两个分支过了两年后,你熟悉了德国社会,于是你开始找自己的副业,你炒股,投资餐厅,你努力在中资升级。钱是能赚一点是一点,你去别的城市也不会忘记在微信群里问一嘴有没有人和你拼顺风车,你帮别人带免税香烟和文件,衣服。你过上了平淡的一天又一天。
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-18 23:39:54 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: neza3xg
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能不送中就彻底成功了属于是()
- Author: Carltube
- Created: 2025-09-21 18:02:57 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nfgii8h
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确实,能逃避这个就算成功了。德国的生活和工作方式跟国内差很多,得提前做好心理准备。不过如果能在国外找到合适的机会,真的是个不错的选择。
- Author: hiroshima_fireworks
- Created: 2025-09-22 18:02:13 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nfn0s3q
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月薪3000欧只能存下500吗?
- Author: Lumpy-Worldliness-77
- Created: 2025-09-24 16:19:01 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nfyyts7
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月薪3000不会和别人合租了,而且有女朋友也要花钱了。
- Author: hcwang34
- Created: 2025-09-19 00:35:25 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nezjey1
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可以先学德语,然后到江浙沪地区的德企业打工试试。德国企业基本都是制造业,招人的门槛并不高。特别如果是需要下产线的岗位
- Author: cuter1982
- Created: 2025-09-19 00:43:12 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nezkrw9
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啊?国内双元制还要质保金?不就是找工作吗
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-19 01:03:20 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nezoace
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1nkb4r7/大四穷蛆有润德想法求建议或者骂醒/nezoace/
额,我的意思是,如果过去德国那里读他们的双元制职业培训的话,过去是需要办张卡,每一年你自己存大概一万多欧进去,要你每个月从卡里面拿出来九百多,拿出来怎么处理不管你了,可以花掉也可以就拿着,留到第二年再存进去
- Author: cuter1982
- Created: 2025-09-19 03:35:27 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nf0dz48
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哦,明白。沒什麽好想的,學一年德語到B2就可以潤了。雙元制你那個質保金只是做做樣而已,企業還會發你工資。省點不用動用質保金。
- Author: Competitive_Base239
- Created: 2025-09-19 01:00:30 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: neznssk
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你这条件考研卷大厂算了
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-19 01:05:34 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nezooco
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主要是(对我来讲)考研不像高考那样有(题目越写越简单,高三的时候人很纯粹就想着分数不需要像现在想着兜底的备选方案)正反馈,想着把鸡蛋分到多几个篮筐里面
- Author: LarnMk4
- Created: 2025-09-19 01:07:02 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nezoxjn
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你上中文语言环境的课都只能拿到60左右的绩点去外国上课还是德语能不能毕业都是个问题,还是继续当墙国韭菜吧
- Author: SevenTwoSix9
- Created: 2025-09-19 02:03:35 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nezyuy3
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典型眼高手低,沒能力又不肯吃苦,只幻想有辦法找到錢多事少的工作,現在連離家近都能拋棄了。 我可以很負責任跟你說,就算研究生,沒有工作經驗,也是從基礎開始。唯一就是可能履歷會比較容易被看到,但也有很多HR怕研究生做基礎工作容易心存不滿而直接pass的。 自己是哪塊料自己知道。什麼潤都是浪費家裡人辛苦賺回來的錢罷了。
- Author: Motor-Delivery942
- Created: 2025-09-19 04:05:40 UTC
- Score: 0
- ID: nf0icoc
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走线走线走线! 重要的事情说三遍
- Author: urafifa
- Created: 2025-09-19 05:00:10 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nf0pm3d
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你这也是洗脑洗迷糊了
- Author: Practical-Soft8053
- Created: 2025-09-19 05:15:46 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nf0rk9t
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说明中介工作做的不错 成功忽悠一个
- Author: RR_laws
- Created: 2025-09-19 07:48:06 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nf18gyh
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不要自卑
- Author: Fine-Buy-6506
- Created: 2025-09-19 09:34:47 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nf1j49m
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不反思一下自己的问题跑到火星上该不行还是不行
- Author: PatientJackfruit4865
- Created: 2025-09-19 10:40:07 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nf1qdiq
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以我在德国读书的经历来看,双元制不太行。
- Author: Spirited_Menu4653
- Created: 2025-10-14 07:38:49 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: njeurvb
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能问下为什么不太行吗
- Author: Relative_Exam_7400
- Created: 2025-09-19 10:50:47 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nf1rojm
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双元制出来感觉是纯牛马,哥们不如搞个门槛低的硕士然后做werkstudent,还能拿学位美美转码 德国老登都很看学历,学历低的话上升空间还是小,而且很多德国厂给的工资感觉真就是勉强能活,租房吃饭之后剩不下啥
- Author: SHChan1986
- Created: 2025-09-19 15:53:23 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nf39qnt
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"搞个门槛低的硕士"? 只有毕业证没学位证 will make things preety difficult.
- Author: dearphenix
- Created: 2025-09-21 17:41:21 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nfgdl25
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双元制在德国也是谎言吗,就是其实还是考大学为上流选择?
- Author: Flashy_Spinach7014
- Created: 2025-09-19 14:52:50 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nf2wz7i
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德国挺好的,山清水秀的,为啥犹豫
- Author: MuchLetterhead3206
- Created: 2025-09-19 15:48:50 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nf38rme
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985工科润德?
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-19 15:50:00 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nf390ky
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有什么建议吗弱弱的问下
- Author: Refuse_Evening
- Created: 2025-09-19 17:22:08 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nf3s9lc
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谁不想润,谁不想去发达国家? 那里的社会保障制度更好,社会福利更多 社会资源更多,竞争压力更小 这都是常识 但是这种常识,需要户晨风的粉丝们通过户晨风拍购买力的视频才能了解! 真正的购买力是什么?是大宗商品,是国际大米、国际小麦,大宗的牛肉、蔬菜的进口! 这么浅显简单的道理有多少人知道呢?
竞争压力小,社会资源富足,社会保障体系完善,教育资源丰富,这些都是常识,但是对于常识,他们也是没有的,别多想!
- Author: leon_law
- Created: 2025-09-19 23:47:58 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nf5u3tr
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这种成绩也要跟着润,怪不得海外华人群体越来越操蛋了
- Author: Ok_Elk_6792
- Created: 2025-09-20 07:35:47 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nf7lcv6
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山大均分60确定到德国能跟上课程进度?
- Author: 4YGR
- Created: 2025-09-20 23:52:59 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nfc1oz5
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第一 调查要做全面,外网太多鼓吹出国好,好不好其实要具体分析的 你看到的是他们想给你看到的 还有很多润到德国不好的人(我亲戚有南亚的 北美的 北欧的 台湾的 不是在国外生活就比国内好) 第二 心里有想法就行动 树挪死人挪活 但是你得了解这块地适不适合你 交换生啥的很重要 最起码呆个三年半个月再做考虑 第三 不要用润这个词 心里红到哪里都红 每个国家都有各自的优缺点 都有黑暗和光明 內网是封锁黑暗展示光明 外网宣称自由 但是言论还是被资本家控制 不也和内网一样 相信自己的眼睛和直觉
- Author: 4YGR
- Created: 2025-09-20 23:55:27 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nfc23ph
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待个三个月半年
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-21 01:14:17 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nfcesfj
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了解,谢谢建议
- Author: SirLife9131
- Created: 2025-09-21 01:43:56 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nfcjh66
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润德?就是那个三年本科四年入门七年补修八年毕业的地方吗?
- Author: 4dami20
- Created: 2025-09-21 09:21:40 UTC
- Score: 5
- ID: nfe2uva
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Hey, German guy here haha My wife is Chinese and we're recently applying for her German visa.
'Duales Studium' (dual study) is a very good choice as it is preferred by most companies because you have more practical experience. You also earn some money during university, however the salary of an apprentice is not that high, so it might not cover all of your living expenses. It's also more exhausting to study this way but that shouldn't be a problem for someone who only knows the Chinese school system haha
In general Germany and Europe in general is not how you might know it from the movies... There's more criminality than you might think, it can be dangerous for women in the night alone, there's quite a bit of drug abuse and it's quite normalized to use them. It's definitely much less convenient than life in China and going to the restaurant is a luxury not a normal everyday experience.
However the living standard is quite good, once you finish university you're more likely to find a job in Germany also, and then the salary should provide you a quite comfortable life in a country with one of the best worker rights in the world.
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-21 10:27:41 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nfe9kxq
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well,anyhow,thanks for your advice
- Author: 4dami20
- Created: 2025-09-21 11:15:51 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nfef0iv
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Also regarding the deposit, as far as I know you have to pay around 12.000 € so 96.000 cny on a bank account then that money gets frozen and every month you get access to 1000€ (8000cny). If you study Dual, so University and Apprentice ship, the company you work at might help you with the deposit, you could make it part of the salary. But that's nothing you can for sure rely on
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-21 15:24:25 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nffkm5h
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I know this from when i first hear this way,and my parents could be able to provide this roughly 100.000 cny if I do choose this way(enough for first year,but even with salary from company I might still spend about 100€ in frozen account or some more per month?no idea about approximate number)
- Author: Fast_Firefighter5905
- Created: 2025-09-21 11:37:31 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nfehmc0
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就德国以及欧洲整体的现在这个政治生态,能力不足还想润没那么容易的。要是后面 AfD 上台政策风向一变小心闹个两头不到岸,参考最近几天的 H1B 朋友们的挣扎。
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-21 15:26:19 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nffkzvi
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了解,所以还是尝试不把鸡蛋放一个篮筐里了
- Author: Patient_Command6794
- Created: 2025-09-21 19:52:12 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nfh75fj
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真没必要 别着急好好冷静想想 出来这么多年见的多了发现最后结局不一定有你想的好
- Author: 4dami20
- Created: 2025-09-22 02:17:52 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nfj5qe4
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It online says the average cost of living for students is around 850€, so that should be fine with the salary. My recommendation is to move to a smaller city like for example Nürnberg, Wolfsburg, Lübeck, Leipzig (it's quite big for German standard, but still cheap) as the living costs especially the housing prices are better there. Also a lot of the big industrial companies have their headquarters in smaller cities
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-22 02:52:02 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nfjb4gc
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Roger, thanks for advice
- Author: Edward-2022-Start
- Created: 2025-09-22 06:23:15 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nfk1kfv
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真能做成事的人不需要在网上求助。
- Author: AdIndependent6841
- Created: 2025-09-22 09:32:21 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nfkk6r1
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这绩点出国找死吗 真以为外边地上天国了 这种学习能力能被欧洲人卷死
- Author: Superoom
- Created: 2025-09-22 11:33:46 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nfkyctl
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不如去宁波
- Author: Sha1rholder
- Created: 2025-09-22 18:45:41 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nfn9nex
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山东这个地方和德国确实是有说法的
- Author: 7Zie
- Created: 2025-09-22 23:42:49 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nfoopsw
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看到你的帖子想到十年前我开启留学德国的计划。脱产把德语推到c1,去德国重读本科。现在已经工作两年并且在读博了。我觉得想好自己为了德国的生活能放弃现在的什么东西最重要。舍不得自己的母语?舍不得中文交际圈?亦或者是舍不得国内的外卖?这些都会拖慢前进的脚步。
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-23 00:03:16 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nforvoe
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你说的这三个东西我都不觉得是太“舍不得”的,阻碍动手的更偏向是家人(认为考研才是出路,估计考完研不管行还是不行,找工作又实在不行的话就必须有后备路线了)和钱,信息
- Author: 7Zie
- Created: 2025-09-23 02:32:06 UTC
- Score: 4
- ID: nfpdwx6
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德国是我认为“性价比”最高的目的地了。上学的同时就可以打学生工。一个月到手也有1100欧。所以只要有个启动资金就够了。至于信息,学了德语就自己去官网查就好了,都是公开的信息。
- Author: FikeG97
- Created: 2025-09-23 02:45:11 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nfpfsyf
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从你的话里看你有点倾向美化没选择过的道路了,先把这种心态改了,以后不管出不出去都好一点。
- Author: RipLoud3334
- Created: 2025-09-23 03:24:11 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nfplchm
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了解,谢谢建议,还是得先冷静一下