本人法国高商本科一年级,高中上的国内普 高,学校提供几个专业方向考虑选企业金融或AI,然后我还不会法语(前几个月才开始学),请问有什么方法可以留下来?(高商是排名前五的)
- Author: Upbeat_Ad4453
- Created: 2025-10-08 18:24:40 UTC
- Score: 3
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试试目标导向 关注学期间的实习和工作机会 也可能得考虑MS
- Author: Future-Requirement50
- Created: 2025-10-08 18:53:11 UTC
- Score: 4
- ID: nigwhkm
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前五那就是emlyon/edhec咯,等学徒制吧,跟公司签卖身契好了。高商bba四年本的话不建议再读硕士了
- Author: Ray_Qiang
- Created: 2025-10-08 20:39:16 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nihi4yh
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硕士也有好处可以直接工签留法但太久了
- Author: Future-Requirement50
- Created: 2025-10-08 20:40:30 UTC
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- ID: nihidsv
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bba都读下来了再搞个mim没意义,学的一样。mif又学不上去
- Author: Ray_Qiang
- Created: 2025-10-08 21:37:34 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nihthkd
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确实。所以我在另一个回复中也说了,其实还是读一个top的商学院本科比较好。前5还是差点意思。
- Author: Future-Requirement50
- Created: 2025-10-08 21:39:07 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nihtrz7
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bba本身就是scam
本科还是大U好,biz school的本科都很一言难尽,hec的也是
- Author: Ray_Qiang
- Created: 2025-10-08 22:11:40 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nihzntw
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我也觉得读商科最好还是工作一段时间了再读最合适,比如工作5年了读个MBA,工作15年了读个EMBA,本科读商校还是有点怪怪的。不过我这可能也是国人想法。
- Author: Forward-Guess-6534
- Created: 2025-10-09 07:26:26 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nik5zv8
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大U本科是什么
- Author: Future-Requirement50
- Created: 2025-10-09 07:28:30 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nik66we
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综合性大学
- Author: SHChan1986
- Created: 2025-10-09 16:44:10 UTC
- Score: 1
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尤其是stand alone business school, 那種缺了其他department (e.g. quantitative one like math/stat/cs, social sci one like econ/pol/law)支援的, 往往特別水.
都不一定要到大U, 就算是那種social science school style +偏重business的學校的往往也比只有商科的好不少.
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大uni <-- e.g. UCL, LMU, Paris 1, Amsterdam, you name it.
social scinece school + business <-- e.g. LSE, Bocconi, HSG, Rotterdam
stand alone business school <-- e.g. HEC, ESSEC, SSE, WHU. (所以LBS/INSEAD/IMD這類不設本科)
- Author: SHChan1986
- Created: 2025-10-08 22:47:04 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nii5noh
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為甚麼MiF學不上去?
Business --> Finance sounds a common path?
- Author: Future-Requirement50
- Created: 2025-10-08 22:51:46 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nii6gpd
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Econometrics吊都没学到,python也就学个皮毛,建模也不会,顶多会做个excel(我对essec毕业生的印象) 那进了mif让他们怎么活
- Author: SHChan1986
- Created: 2025-10-09 00:08:33 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: niijbb9
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Econometrics吊都没学到,python也就学个皮毛 <---這不就也是某些business school finance master的水平嗎? LOL
- Author: Future-Requirement50
- Created: 2025-10-09 07:28:58 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nik68il
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某些并不是全部
并且这些技能在某些本科也可以打的很扎实
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2025-10-08 20:59:49 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nihm90v
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是,学徒制没法转正的话基本完蛋。但学徒制项目基本都是法语授课。
- Author: Future-Requirement50
- Created: 2025-10-08 21:00:48 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nihmfzh
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不是吧,至少essec的英语bba也有学徒制,但是我不清楚别的
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2025-10-08 21:01:46 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nihmmrm
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怎么确定有的?点开申请界面时显示的么?
- Author: Future-Requirement50
- Created: 2025-10-08 21:02:27 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nihmrco
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我朋友essec在读
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2025-10-08 21:02:54 UTC
- Score: 0
- ID: nihmuk7
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最好还是亲眼看到申请界面确实是那样安排的。不然万一有细节上的差异
- Author: Future-Requirement50
- Created: 2025-10-08 21:04:38 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nihn6sm
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🤣申请页面比在读生的经验还权威吗
essec就是大二之后有三条track,交换/双学位/学徒制,三个只能选一个
这些brochure上都有写,但是没写明白只能选一个
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2025-10-08 21:05:42 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nihned9
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本三学徒制啊,哦,原来是这样安排的。可以
- Author: Ray_Qiang
- Created: 2025-10-08 20:38:13 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nihhxec
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我以前有法国某高商员工,我自己也是法国某高商EMBA,我感觉很后悔,尤其是你还不会法语,建议往更国际化的大城市、顶尖商学院去。前5的不行,前两名的估计差不多。说白了、伦敦、巴黎、牛剑的顶尖高商,其他的没啥意思。
- Author: nonpro_economist
- Created: 2025-10-08 23:35:37 UTC
- Score: -6
- ID: niidvn8
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是人是鬼学个垃圾玩意都要留下来,法国是欠你一份工作吗?人家正儿八经法国人大学校不招,招你个垃圾商科法语还不会说的中国人?你就拿着爸妈钱在欧洲好好玩玩享受下国内没有的生活得了,几年之后就是送中的
- Author: Every_Chemical8147
- Created: 2025-10-09 01:25:26 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: niivvds
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只是个刚读大学的孩子在提问而已,理性讨论
- Author: Royal-Square1190
- Created: 2025-10-09 06:24:19 UTC
- Score: 7
- ID: nijzsxt
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温良的评论
- Author: sewerboat
- Created: 2025-10-09 15:09:02 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nilwmm1
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欧陆留学普遍也花不了几个钱。
- Author: Future-Requirement50
- Created: 2025-10-09 17:24:21 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nimo4cc
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你的语气好像祖上三代都出生在法国的
- Author: akathekam
- Created: 2025-10-09 00:00:41 UTC
- Score: 0
- ID: niii1av
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法国? 你认真的?
- Author: john-poller
- Created: 2025-10-09 01:51:22 UTC
- Score: 8
- ID: nij03lu
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感觉法语最重要吧,法语是敲门砖,法语不啃下来别的就先别想了
- Author: Academic_Dig_3399
- Created: 2025-10-09 08:05:24 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nik9ndz
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我媳妇就是法国前五高商mim毕业的,还是疫情期间20年毕业的那一批,就这样她毕业一年内也找到工作了。
她法语一般,学的financial market专业,法国的实习和后来找的工作都在大公司和大银行。不过她确实很厉害,毕业前就cfa三级都考完了。
我前女友是另一个前五高商mim毕业,学的marketing ,不过法语不错,也是毕业很快找到工作了。
前五高商肯定是加分项的。要么法语好,要么专业能力强,至少沾一个,留下来的希望就很大
- Author: Forward-Guess-6534
- Created: 2025-10-09 09:27:44 UTC
- Score: 0
- ID: nikhezr
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我先学法语吧,主要是最近几个月才开始学,学校第一年也没有专门的法语课,我还要兼顾学习没太多时间🥲
- Author: SHChan1986
- Created: 2025-10-09 15:09:52 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nilwsmn
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讀高商business major那麼容易輕鬆的就別說沒太多時間了.
you better get to B2 or at least B1+ level in 1 year.
- Author: Forward-Guess-6534
- Created: 2025-10-09 15:17:34 UTC
- Score: 0
- ID: nilyd4x
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自学怎么学这么快啊
- Author: Academic_Dig_3399
- Created: 2025-10-09 15:27:01 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nim0a7n
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自学一年b1不算难。
或者找法语班上,法国一些城市的mairie极便宜的法语班,或者去所在城市的公立大学报法语班也行,很多公立大学都有的。这样一年b1肯定可以,智商在线应该可以b2。
如果达不到可能确实不适合润小语种国家了
- Author: SHChan1986
- Created: 2025-10-09 16:07:52 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nim8kif
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你不想送中, 就要那麼快. 一年衝到B1+, 兩年衝到C1水平, 那你就可以year 2後找實習, which is super important for getting a job after graduation.
同時, 你的主修學業不能放下. 否則就是菜.
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對於不可能純靠hard core technical skill的商科來講, 搞定語言這是必須的. 換了你是讀甚麼maths/phy/cs/ee之類, 那還能找研究所或者純technical岡, 那只靠英語還有點活路. but you are in business. study is super easy, 搞不定語言只能是懶.
- Author: Forward-Guess-6534
- Created: 2025-10-09 16:24:31 UTC
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- ID: nimbxis
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I’m cooked💀
- Author: SHChan1986
- Created: 2025-10-09 16:32:31 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nimdjhp
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WTF? 你家有錢去讀private business school, 還叫cooked?
你只是需要full time讀法文(say 30 hr/week)+full time讀一個容易的書(say 30 hr/week), 隨便每週996一下, 一天10小時(已經算了你2個小時吃飯)6天就60小時, 一個星期還有一天放假就已經足夠, 這還叫cooked?
你應該感恩一下, 你家有錢. 否則就是full time法文+full time public uni + part time job賺生活費了.
<-- 這個就要30+30+20 or 20+40+20 (for more technical STEM major) = 80 hours a week = 12 hours * 6.7 days = 9/11/6+from 9 to 5 on Sunday. 每個星期就只有一個星期日晚上能休息了.
- Author: Academic_Dig_3399
- Created: 2025-10-09 17:19:32 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nimn4z6
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真相
- Author: SHChan1986
- Created: 2025-10-09 15:08:43 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nilwk4x
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要么法语好,要么专业能力强? that's good old day.
You probably need both to have a chance now, especially OP is in business.
- Author: Decent_Complaint_242
- Created: 2025-10-09 21:42:46 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nio34va
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直接申请庇护
- Author: FitAccess8446
- Created: 2025-10-10 22:24:22 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: niumf86
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不会法语你想什么呢?赶紧学好法语比什么都强
- Author: IllustriousCap5164
- Created: 2025-10-12 12:51:04 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nj3fpey
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如果是就读于EDHEC或EMLyon的BBA课程,由于其课程设置强制要求学生参与多个实习,将为你的履历提供充分的实践经验。如果想在法语区获得一份CDI(长期合同),拥有硕士学位是普遍的行业要求。
一种普遍的误解是BBA学历无法通过投资银行的简历筛选,但事实并非如此。对于BBA的学生来说,完全有机会进入顶尖的投资银行。建议你可以在大一、大二期间积极寻找在卢森堡的clearstream,DB或UBS等金融机构的实习(因为在法国Bac+1/2不会有顶级的金融岗位开放)。流利的法语将是你进入投行领域的巨大优势,像ODDO,法国罗柴和HSBC等公司以往也倾向于招聘学徒身份的求职者(我身边有很多BBA毕业的人曾在这里学徒)。
关于是否需要攻读硕士学位,法语区就业市场的实际情况表明,硕士学历对于金融全职合同至关重要。因此,忽略那些认为不需要读硕士的建议。对于未来的升学路径,如果你的法语能力有限,可以考虑申请英国帝国理工学院(IC)或伦敦商学院(LBS)的硕士项目,这对于BBA本科均分15的人来说是保底项目。
会法语的话,随便找个大U刷一下学历等级早点就业就好。一般来说如果你不会法语,巴黎作为brexit后相对较好的金融市场就业地区也是有希望的,不少美资boutique投行也会在这边开SNT岗位,虽然以sales为主,但是summer的机会也不少,只是给你的训练会远不如六个月的offcycle。这些地方一般都是有机会return的,只是可能需要你relocate去伦敦做first year。
如果有任何求职问题都可以留言,我相信这论坛应该没有人比我权威,BBA+大U硕士,现在全职在某固收+ETF顶级资管。
- Author: Forward-Guess-6534
- Created: 2025-10-13 14:30:33 UTC
- Score: 1
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谢谢你的信息,我先看看实习机会
- Author: Forward-Guess-6534
- Created: 2025-10-14 10:35:11 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: njfbzzq
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之前有人留言考虑学徒制,那要读硕士是不是就不选择学徒制了
- Author: IllustriousCap5164
- Created: 2025-10-15 08:43:23 UTC
- Score: 2
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为什么会冲突?读硕士是你在法语区从事好的金融工作的基础
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to OP: 這一條路, 其實很favor local. well, not necessary local or EU, 但是是對法語水平有極高的要求(imagine S&T的sales.)