每次从国内赚生活费过来都要被手续费➕电讯费➕入账费恶心一下,而且汇率还比实时的高,有没有什么办法规避掉这些费用?🥲目前已知的可以人民币转港币,再用wise把港币换成对应货币,但是我计算了一下这个过程会有0.7的损耗加上wise也收手续费算下来没划算多少
- Author: ConnectWishbone4607
- Created: 2025-11-04 12:04:52 UTC
- Score: 6
- ID: nn1naml
- Ups=6 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn1naml/
ibkr中转😁
- Author: JasonMantou
- Created: 2025-11-04 12:50:19 UTC
- Score: 10
- ID: nn1ob4m
- Ups=10 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn1ob4m/
其实我们那时候都是中餐厅什么的....
- Author: Educational-Bus266
- Created: 2025-11-04 14:16:23 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nn22we4
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn22we4/
熊猫速汇不知道怎么样,或者加密货币呢
- Author: 6vvvvvvv
- Created: 2025-11-06 08:33:05 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nndyjet
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nndyjet/
黑过银行
- Author: QHsuTcp
- Created: 2025-11-07 07:51:52 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nnk9dko
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnk9dko/
我用过一次,固定手续费80块钱,但是后来发现熊猫速汇的汇率比银行app里显示的汇率差,算了下相当于被多收了100。整体而言,折损约0.08%。我觉得比银行汇款要划算。希望我没算错吧。另外,用不收手续费的信用卡取现呢?欧洲有的atm机不收手续费的,是不是更划算呢?不过取现额度是个问题。
- Author: FishySmellz
- Created: 2025-11-04 16:21:12 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nn2s6ww
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn2s6ww/
办个中国的银行发行的全币种信用卡,用这个卡支付外币,然后国内用人民币还账单
- Author: retiredbigbro
- Created: 2025-11-04 17:50:53 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nn3b3me
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn3b3me/
国外账单(比如电费什么的)能用这个付吗?好像一般不行吧
- Author: FishySmellz
- Created: 2025-11-04 17:56:19 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nn3ca9f
- Ups=3 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn3ca9f/
如果能接受信用卡就行
- Author: [deleted]
- Created: 2025-11-06 02:54:07 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nncsl3i
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nncsl3i/
其实要看商家规定锁不锁卡的发行国家。比如日本这边得有一半情况下是限制外国卡,只能本国发行的卡。
- Author: Mark2046
- Created: 2025-11-04 22:46:33 UTC
- Score: 6
- ID: nn516qh
- Ups=6 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn516qh/
这种煞笔信用卡一般是走visa美元汇率然后再走银行的美元汇率到人民币,已被剥削一层。
并且国内这种全币种卡被各种拉黑,已试过亚马逊秒封,并且很多订阅也不让用。
唯一的好处是多可以免手续费提点现钱。
- Author: FishySmellz
- Created: 2025-11-04 23:23:52 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nn57zv8
- Ups=3 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn57zv8/
关键字“全币种”,你说的那是美元双币种的。我的卡从来没有被封过。
- Author: Mark2046
- Created: 2025-11-05 00:59:15 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nn5ot3f
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn5ot3f/
国内有大量的所谓全币种,实际上都是走的以上流程,只不过不明说罢了。
另外不是说封卡而是封号,洼地卡普遍被拉黑不是一天两天了,现在连个gpt都订阅不了,建议更新下版本。
- Author: Mark2046
- Created: 2025-11-05 01:25:01 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nn5t7yu
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn5t7yu/
另外不管怎么样走的也是银行的坑爹汇率,大头主要是栽这儿了,认割吧。
- Author: WalkerZYC
- Created: 2025-11-04 18:18:02 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nn3h0w9
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn3h0w9/
是必折损0.7吗?我记得工行往外汇款是固定手续费的,应该能在欧洲这边找到一家一样的用固定手续费接受外汇的银行
- Author: ChengHsje
- Created: 2025-11-04 20:56:08 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nn4ehtj
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn4ehtj/
云闪付单次200rmb手续费往欧洲卡上转账
- Author: Mark2046
- Created: 2025-11-04 22:49:28 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nn51qst
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn51qst/
在国内低点买汇大笔转出来据我所知依然是台面上的方式最便宜的。
- Author: Victor_Wong3
- Created: 2025-11-05 00:39:50 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nn5lfk6
- Ups=3 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn5lfk6/
大国是这样的
- Author: superyzy
- Created: 2025-11-05 01:52:43 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nn5y37i
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn5y37i/
线下中国手机店换钱,汇率比官方低不少
- Author: csnerd111
- Created: 2025-11-05 05:47:13 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nn6xy78
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn6xy78/
找cex c2c买u,转到别的非大陆身份认证的cex,之后爱干啥干啥(风险自负,但这确实损耗很低,非常低)
- Author: Competitive-Case-749
- Created: 2025-11-05 12:31:44 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nn86lno
- Ups=3 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn86lno/
这个过程也有损耗啊。。。c2c买u本来就要贵一些
- Author: csnerd111
- Created: 2025-11-05 12:32:56 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nn86rvv
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn86rvv/
我只能说运气好的时候电表倒转都有可能,我对比的是google汇率。看运气了,理论上这比啥都便宜
- Author: Competitive-Case-749
- Created: 2025-11-05 13:01:07 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nn8b4ed
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn8b4ed/
我感觉帖主的0.7也还不错了
- Author: [deleted]
- Created: 2025-11-06 02:57:08 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nnct2tf
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnct2tf/
这个我也研究过了,主要损耗是在买u阶段。 转移U、卖出U确实没多少损耗。
- Author: Sudden-Gas1931
- Created: 2025-11-06 15:22:46 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nnfiyvw
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnfiyvw/
怎么能够安全买u?CNY买u有很多限制吧
- Author: Plastic-Technology32
- Created: 2025-11-05 08:18:26 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nn7efpn
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn7efpn/
为什么不用USDT呢
- Author: General-Stuff5775
- Created: 2025-11-05 12:33:31 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nn86uvo
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn86uvo/
是被收多少?我從台灣轉帳到荷蘭,全額到收1200台幣,不全額到被收300台幣+20歐元,我轉60萬台幣左右。
- Author: Beautiful-Alps-938
- Created: 2025-11-06 11:09:27 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nnee658
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnee658/
你的全额大约损耗0.2%,很低了。
- Author: Kicks-Culture
- Created: 2025-11-05 13:07:18 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nn8c4zd
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn8c4zd/
我给你转
- Author: Kicks-Culture
- Created: 2025-11-05 13:08:32 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nn8ccb4
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn8ccb4/
有需要的嘛 找我呀。 我这里容易
- Author: Jinyang_Li
- Created: 2025-11-05 13:18:37 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: nn8e1me
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nn8e1me/
要当地货币找中餐厅,要rmb找留子
- Author: Exciting_Flight_3550
- Created: 2025-11-06 10:02:04 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: nne74eu
- Ups=3 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nne74eu/
你要是不嫌麻烦就私下换汇,就是有法律风险
- Author: Beautiful-Alps-938
- Created: 2025-11-06 11:11:02 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nneecdb
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nneecdb/
Wise针对多个币种的手续费提高了很多,所谓店大欺客。
- Author: LXnzh_IIE
- Created: 2025-11-06 16:04:18 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nnfrntr
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnfrntr/
wise還可以吧
- Author: godmoe
- Created: 2025-11-06 21:33:54 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nnhnwk6
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnhnwk6/
wise我转账给自己都被风控了
- Author: Beautiful-Alps-938
- Created: 2025-11-07 04:30:34 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nnjmlgl
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnjmlgl/
为啥?
- Author: godmoe
- Created: 2025-11-07 05:40:31 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nnjvede
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnjvede/
要证明资金来源
- Author: Beautiful-Alps-938
- Created: 2025-11-07 07:43:58 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nnk8kr8
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnk8kr8/
你在哪里需要这么严格?
- Author: cinnatant
- Created: 2025-11-07 07:43:50 UTC
- Score: 6
- ID: nnk8k8h
- Ups=6 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnk8k8h/
港卡+ibkr。用跨境支付通直接转人民币到香港银行卡(无损),再利用ibkr人民币入金(无损),用现金账户买boxx(0.03%手续费自动帮你把欧元按中间汇率换成美元买boxx)or 直接换汇(2刀手续费)变成美元资产or美元。
不要只换汇(人民币—>欧元)直接转出,建议是走美元中转一次,并且最好留一部分钱在ibkr里持有boxx这样的货币基金,否则会被ib封号。
最后需要用钱的时候,用ib美元换汇成欧元,走SEPA无损出金到欧元区账户。
https://preview.redd.it/jz78lkf9hszf1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5cb2d8687ad2737c8cd307e51fa031d592fb70e7
ib所有汇率都是中间汇率,并且在ib里留一部分钱替家人长期持有boxx这种无风险货币基金收利息,然后要用钱了就出金欧元;感兴趣的话还可以准备炒炒美股。
当然,我针对的是“生活费”,默认的是小额频率高比如一个月几万块的情况。如果介意跨境支付通的限额,那就直接电汇美元到港卡(尤其是香港汇丰,入金不收手续费),然后入ibkr(不要手续费),然后你可以直接去买boxx,要用的时候换欧元取出来就行。
- Author: JustKing0
- Created: 2025-11-07 08:05:56 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nnkatfo
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnkatfo/
USDT
- Author: Feiyu404
- Created: 2025-11-07 23:07:03 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nnogg6l
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnogg6l/
下个交易所直接转u 而且交易所有的可以直接申请u卡 直接用u卡消费
- Author: Exciting-Park-4207
- Created: 2025-11-08 00:29:14 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nnou1vk
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnou1vk/
用加密货币usdt啊,除了用人民币换u 有0.1%到0.3%的磨损,国外用u消费0磨损。
- Author: CommentEmergency3986
- Created: 2025-11-08 04:42:56 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: nnpvg6y
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/nnpvg6y/
开通中国银行欧洲账户 只要是中国银行互转手续费都极低甚至无 我的英国中行转到大陆中行只要10磅手续费
- Author: Overall-Test-774
- Created: 2025-11-10 16:12:37 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: no4k67z
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runEuropaAlliance/comments/1oo5ln0/各位都是怎么转生活费的/no4k67z/
找我在国外的亲戚换