日本地方的介护工资太低了,被300万年薪卡脖子了,归化不了一点,一年就涨几千円。了解了一下就大阪东京能勉勉强强税后300万 考b1然后去德干介护拿永驻能行得通吗?
- Author: Deep_Durian827
- Created: 2025-11-08 14:42:17 UTC
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如果去做温泉酒店,可以成功归化嘛?
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-09 04:04:10 UTC
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不太可能,温泉酒店基本上都是表面上说你在干前台之类的,实际上就是打杂做清洁,这个入管局属于是睁一只眼闭一只眼。再就是签证基本上都是一年签,申请不了归化的。除非真是去温泉酒店前台或者会计之类的
- Author: Organic_Challenge151
- Created: 2025-11-08 14:50:22 UTC
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你已经在日本了?不然为什么不直接去德国
而且护士b1也不够吧
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-08 15:02:20 UTC
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不是护士,是养老院的护工那种
- Author: CardioHypothermia
- Created: 2025-11-08 14:52:11 UTC
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我也想知道,好像去德国发展前景好一点(可以升到更好的职位跟后续教育),日本做介护的话就只能永远介护了,看護可能会好一些但是成本就高一些。
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-08 15:15:31 UTC
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这政策太矛盾了,地方又缺介护人员,但是用东京的水准来审查,只要想归化永驻就得跳槽去大城市找工资更高的施設,不然就只能等到干不动了回国。
- Author: Different_Paper_847
- Created: 2025-11-09 15:05:31 UTC
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请问介乎人员是指护工吗
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-09 15:23:20 UTC
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是的
- Author: Different_Paper_847
- Created: 2025-11-09 15:49:31 UTC
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护工怎么那么低是整个行业就低吗还是某些企业
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-09 15:58:23 UTC
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整个行业就这样,我记得是哪的数据,两百多个职业年收入排行好像一百多名来着。
- Author: Different_Paper_847
- Created: 2025-11-10 15:21:23 UTC
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那你需要多少?300万是一个与多少钱啊?一万几?那350万够不够?
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-10 23:32:01 UTC
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税后300万日元,税前差不多要370多万才够
- Author: Different_Paper_847
- Created: 2025-11-11 10:29:47 UTC
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那要是敢护工的话怎么才能拿到350税后呢?需要别的证书吗
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-11 10:39:13 UTC
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税后350万?一般职员这么高薪资的设施招不招外国人我暂且蒙古。或者你试试考ケアマネ吧,工作五年才有资格考,难度也不低
- Author: RandomZhell
- Created: 2025-11-08 14:53:22 UTC
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介护是什么? 护工? 德国可以走护工双元制, 不过据说也挺累的
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-08 15:09:56 UTC
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就照顾老人的,我查了下说是德国承认日本的介护福祉士资格,但要补修部分课程认证为Pflegefachkraft
- Author: RandomZhell
- Created: 2025-11-08 15:15:04 UTC
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那基本读完了就是 TVöD-P 7级工资, 第一年单身税后2200, 加班另算, 工资会随着工龄涨, 要是升8级或者9级也会涨, 不过 B1 应该只够学徒吧, 上岗估计也得 B2
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-08 15:20:53 UTC
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嗯嗯,语言我看也是要求的b1起步,应该还是得上b2,花几年时间认真学
- Author: dongguadepi
- Created: 2025-11-08 14:54:22 UTC
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有家庭的話可以考慮德國,一個人的話不建議,德國實在太無聊,無論是飲食還是文化都很單調,距離也遠。
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-08 15:07:24 UTC
- Score: 3
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有连休、只要老实上班纳税能拿身份我就很满足了,现在这家设施的休假都是上两天休一天又上三天休一天,年假都是拆开每个月给你休一天。一个月可能就一次二连休,上夜班的话有机会能凑一个三连休,一年想去稍微远点的地方旅游都没什么机会,太累了。又被300万年薪卡脖子,想要归化不得不跳槽去大城市找工资高的,又得从新人干起
- Author: dongguadepi
- Created: 2025-11-08 17:02:12 UTC
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德國也不是賺錢的地方,我認爲德國只適合有孩子的家庭或者科研機構人員發展學術。德國護理的强度也很大,稅前3000歐不到,單身適用最高級稅卡,稅後只剩1800,房租合租的話500-600, 公寓800-1000左右。如果你是單身的話,在德國下班之後會無聊到爆!而且必須自己做飯,沒有像日本那樣方便的食品服務!如果有家人陪伴就很舒適!你自己衡量下,我覺得很不值得,你又要浪費時間學習德語!
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-09 04:01:37 UTC
- Score: 2
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我倒也不是冲着赚钱去德国的,够正常生活就行。正常工作缴税没有潜规则卡着拿身份就行很不错了。日本这边介护的工资上限基本上就是400万日元左右了,大部分都是300万上下,升职跟外国人基本上没有关系,要么就去考ケアマネ,但通过率非常低。边上班边学其他技术转职难度也不小,休息时间不固定,还经常会有临时调班的情况,本来预定二连休,但因为其他员工有事,就得放弃休假去补班。干介护干久了基本上都有职业病,等到干不动了就得回大支。除非挤进大城市的大公司拿到300万税后,或者找人结婚夫妻双方凑够400万归化😔
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-09 04:06:33 UTC
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下班之后我不是打电动就是抱着相机到处去找东西拍,倒是不用担心无聊什么的
- Author: dongguadepi
- Created: 2025-11-08 17:03:10 UTC
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算下來,你剩餘到手的錢可能還不如在日本的多
- Author: Hollande_Uranus
- Created: 2025-11-09 03:28:47 UTC
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我在很多地方提过,欧美非美别考虑,明显不如去日本
- Author: Legitimate-Help-7317
- Created: 2025-11-08 15:53:35 UTC
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德国护工的话平均来说差不多3万欧(你要是刚入行的话应该还拿不到),还有就是你要是经常外食的话生活成本大概率要高日本不少,可能还要去小城市才好找工作
- Author: ConnectWishbone4607
- Created: 2025-11-08 16:18:03 UTC
- Score: 3
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没绷住
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-09 04:04:42 UTC
- Score: 1
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😭
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- Created: 2025-11-08 17:05:43 UTC
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- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-10 01:03:38 UTC
- Score: 3
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华人内斗分裂属于是基本逻辑了,日本也一样,老中都是对老中敬而远之,日本人大部分也是不主动接触外国人的
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- Created: 2025-11-11 15:27:24 UTC
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- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-12 01:34:23 UTC
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走马路上看不看得出来有什么意义呢,有多少人一张嘴能不被发现是老中的,真等到办事情的时候外国人就是很不方便,街上都是陌生人管他认不认得出来你是老中
- Author: wilhelmbw
- Created: 2025-11-08 18:26:37 UTC
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德语吗。。做好脱产两年的准备
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-08 22:44:39 UTC
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😭
- Author: [deleted]
- Created: 2025-11-08 22:28:24 UTC
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- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-08 22:45:17 UTC
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没有,全外食+マンション
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- Created: 2025-11-08 22:49:20 UTC
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- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-08 22:52:04 UTC
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啊,你没有看错,单位确实是日元
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- Created: 2025-11-08 23:06:36 UTC
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- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-08 23:12:22 UTC
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这个是特定技能吧
- Author: chenhuahua1997
- Created: 2025-11-09 13:40:51 UTC
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德国对应pflegehelfer吧,小城市工资也可以,干几年永久入籍都可以了。
问题就是德语,b1你能做也没错,但是只能说德语不好、英语不好的话,会有点难受? 不过每个人感觉都不一样。你既然日本确定留不下来,就一边上班,一边学德语咯。
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-09 15:23:10 UTC
- Score: 1
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英语要求高吗?英语荒废好久了,德语英语一起抓就麻了
- Author: chenhuahua1997
- Created: 2025-11-10 16:50:47 UTC
- Score: 2
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我自己经历过护理ausbildung的申请,德国护理,只有本科的护理会对英语有要求(因为要写论文。ausbildung的只要德语过关就行,pflegehelfer蛮不错的,只要一年,就是毕业了不能考护士证,工资就比一般护士低几百。
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-10 23:30:20 UTC
- Score: 1
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行,专攻德语先
- Author: chenhuahua1997
- Created: 2025-11-10 16:53:19 UTC
- Score: 2
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而且德国政策蛮不错的,你只要有工作(缴纳社保),德语稍微好点,早晚都能拿到永居。
- Author: Proof_Comparison_197
- Created: 2025-11-11 06:32:54 UTC
- Score: 1
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国内想润介护能行吗😭
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-11 07:47:00 UTC
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- ID: no8y3dl
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来日本干介护?去大城市找找吧,最好还是走介护学校,毕业直接进当地设施,海外直招至少n2。特定技能就算了,ブラック企業去了就想跑,边上班边自学考介护福祉士转介护工签有点难
- Author: Proof_Comparison_197
- Created: 2025-11-11 09:56:47 UTC
- Score: 1
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感谢😭国内还有两年才毕业时间还算充裕,请问除了在日语和专业知识上下功夫还有哪些地方需要努力吗
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-11 10:34:33 UTC
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国内就学好日语,多练听力,口语最好想办法练练,不然来了半天憋不出来一句话很难受。来专门学校上学正常听听讲都随便过
- Author: Proof_Comparison_197
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好的,介护和墙内男护比工作强度应该要小不少吧,郑州这边基本三甲普通科室加绩效夜班基本也就在1w上下,三天一夜班,双休更是别想,节假日说让你回就让你回,而且墙内还歧视男护
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- Created: 2025-11-11 14:44:33 UTC
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夜班也不少,除了想多拿点钱的一般都不愿意上夜班。夜班手当大概5000-7000日元吧,休假有是有,都是拆开的,休了一天跟没休一样,我是麻了,一个月一般就一次二连休。放假的时候打电话让你第二天去补班也是常有的事
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- Created: 2025-11-12 10:18:34 UTC
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怎么和墙内差不多了,,,
- Author: asayanene
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缺人,大部分施設都这样
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薪资待遇应该不会比墙内差吧
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-12 10:35:18 UTC
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税前300万上下,东京应该高一些
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- Created: 2025-11-12 07:04:23 UTC
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德语b2干护士够了,缺人的地方b1就行。b2平均脱产一年能拿下来。工资是蓝领里很不错的,消费分城市,你直接过来工作的话肯定得挑一个宜居一点的地方
- Author: asayanene
- Created: 2025-11-12 07:10:24 UTC
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不是护士、是护工护理这种,照顾老人或者残疾人的。有宜居的城市推荐吗
- Author: DaaaK7
- Created: 2025-11-12 07:45:08 UTC
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我主推北威州,房价低,消费低,薪水不低
- Author: DaaaK7
- Created: 2025-11-12 07:45:56 UTC
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护工一样的,你去山东找个对德的劳务中介了解一下