【学习】【咨询】学到浊音了，还是分不清la行和na行。影响考级吗？

年龄真的会导致学习能力大幅下降，我只想考个最低级的N5当学校的敲门砖，主要是用来报名的，没去日之前还会继续精进目标是N3左右，现在被la行和拿行卡住分不清，浊音和拗音的读法也是搞得我一头雾水。

本来一开始学的时候还觉得日语蛮轻松，结果难度直线上升，有点像：”2*2=4，好现在你会数学了给我推导高中函数“

急死了我12月就要考nattest了有没有大佬教一下LA和NA的区别我连听都听不出来区别麻了

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听1000遍

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你这不搞清楚听力不是混沌的要死

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我好奇你听动漫难道妹子都是ねねね发音成嘞嘞嘞吗？

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れれれのれ

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La Na不分，你是粵🐒？

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嗨呀是懒音吗

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和年龄没关系

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是胡建人吗？

Author: Hua_Run
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胡建人就对了日本随意h f ，甚至根本没有f

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南方人，第一语言是方言，然后学习普通话时间太晚，就是这样的了，我也分不清楚，实际上影响并不大

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别在某个阶段过分担心顺其自然继续学后面自然而然就不纠结了

Author: muromimi
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很简单但是很难领会到的一点：那是ra行不是la行
你如果明白了这句话，就再也不会rn不分（仅限日语）
但是恕我嘴拙表达不出来到底是怎么回事😭

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我個人的感覺是la的口腔是要拉開來的，而ra的口腔是沒有很大動作的（

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跟舌头的位置关系更大一点

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确实舌头和发声位置和汉语的l完全不一样

Author: Ornery-Split-1878
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川🐭吧

Author: Mental_Tone_4287
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不影响，jlpt没有口语，我也分不清ㅅ ㅈ ㅊ 在词首的区别

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没口语有听力吧，なら不分我是不知道要怎么考

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人发不出音不代表听不懂

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你回帖不看帖？人家都说了连听也听不出区别

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ならばなかなかならないところがいっぱいあるだろう？

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我在日本5年了还是听不清ゆ　よ的区别

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好奇的问一下kyu和kyo分得清吗？

Author: Careless_Fan_4598
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听不清，顺便我N1通过，EJU日语320

Author: StephanieDoraSSS
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yu和yo我还是能明显分清的 yu有点像英文的U，yo 就是像（yo）哟了

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哪来的la？不是ra吗

Author: aratsmah
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不用纠结，继续往下学，学久了自然就会了。

Author: Packy1014
Created: 2023-10-24 08:10:29 UTC
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有啥关系呢？除非你是要当语言学家。我说普通话还没有翘舌音呢，也没人说我中文不好啊。语言只是用来交流的工具

Author: naruhodo0112
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你这还早呢，五十音图少说一个月吧，按照记忆曲线定期回顾。估计你也是在墙内学的拆腻子日语，有条件最好找日本人老师单独学一下发音。其实发音肌肉群也是需要锻炼的

Author: StephanieDoraSSS
Created: 2023-10-25 01:56:17 UTC
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我要是出去了就不会这么焦虑了，我到拗音这里卡了两天不过还是找到了适合我的方法去记住不过ra和na我是真分不清お姉（ねえ）さん我会有百分之五十的概率写成おれえさん这种意义不明的单词

Author: naruhodo0112
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我觉得想要听清一个音，最好还是自己多练习发这个音。日语里na行ma行还有拗音，声带的震动是比较明显的，可以去搜一下何必博士讲清音浊音的那个视频。你可以找一些na行对应单词，一些ra行单词，然后放在一起进行发音练习

Author: naruhodo0112
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另外虽然在这里不太适合讨论现实信息，不过看你描述我感觉你可能说中文的时候也分不太清na和ra…听力和发音我觉得有很大关联，所以还是要从发音入手

Author: naruhodo0112
Created: 2023-10-25 02:08:58 UTC
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另外虽然在这里不太适合讨论现实信息，不过看你描述我感觉你可能说中文的时候也分不太清na和ra…听力和发音我觉得有很大关联，所以还是要从发音入手

Author: QuantityAlone6544
Created: 2023-10-24 22:29:57 UTC
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很正常吧，很多说方言的都分不清楚L和N。中国不也有分不清楚前鼻音后鼻音的嘛？
辨别语言不一定是全靠读音，一般会结合语义。

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Bruh