标题有些极端,OP预计会在霓虹国待够12年,觉得可以写点经验。
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兴国日本中介喜欢给霓虹国绘制一幅精细、精甚、细腻的工笔画,我在这sub甚至看到不少欧美的也来凑热闹,就决定比较客观地讲讲日本,供后人瞻仰。
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日本的土地面积大约38万平方公里,就一个云南省大小,挤了1.3亿人,山峦遍布,耕地面积总量人均都很低。意味着这国家需要大量进口,我在日本基本是能买进口的就不会买国産,因为东西又贵又小。
外国人多数聚集在东京大阪福冈横滨,这四个地方对外国人平均很友好。但日本总体不欢迎外人(がいじん),一个日本学校不会教的単語,带有贬义。
且日本物价20年稳定的神话已经破灭,现在物价50円100円ごとに涨过好几次,房价也在历史最高峰,工资却没有一点变化,所以我猜sub里说工资也涨的不在日企工作。
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日本留学成本确实不高,但日本现在中国人实在是太多了,维尼的疯狂宇宙再闹几年估计连地方的大学都会开卷,而且好多人毕业日语不好找不到工作也还是要回国。
専門学校就是中国的专科,学历国际不承认,毕业工作多数很累,很难成为人上人。不信可以油管查查介護の一日。
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工作,OP在日本IT业,体验了多年日本奇葩的工作体制文化。
日本不少企业是体育系会社,上下关系严格,不鼓励创新。
日本非常喜欢派遣,即把自己员工排到别的会社工作,日本IT有90%都是恶名昭著的SES,干5年技术水平不如中国干2年,且待遇糟糕,未来渺茫。
本人最受不了日本工作就是,日本人不会变通,非常喜欢在细枝末节斤斤计较,对房间里的大象却视而不见。
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找工作,外人,难
日本有一定会社不会要外人的,有人会觉得自己欧美有经验,来了可以直接外資系,那要做好工资骤降加班不给钱的准备。
みなし残業,极其常见,加班工时费直接算在每个月的工钱中,比如40時間みなし残業,就是这个月加班40小时以内一分钱也没有,好多日本本社的外資系也有这个制度。
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日本未来我不看好,日本虽然在缓慢地进步,但人民参与政治热情不高,且抚养比会逐渐上涨。
针对日本最近的种种问题,岸田文雄做出最高指示,要先开会,然后把自己智囊团的话再说一遍,然后再开会,再把自己智囊团的话再说一遍,然后...
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OP最近在考虑二次润,所以看到好多奋不顾身要从美国德国润来日本的人在这发帖,我就觉得还是欠昭和老头拷打了。
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哈哈,这都让我知道你润欧美了,本滞日鼠人羡慕哭了
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确实 我只是找工作几个月就有一样的感觉了
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我日本大学毕业的 后来第二年考东大研究生没考上就在国内窝了四年 这下正撞上该死的肺炎 去年在国内一朋友的劳务外派公司教日语 今年年初我来了他在日本的缝纫工厂(对 都是招的中国实习生 拿最低工资 没有所谓的休息)目前想转职找it相关 但是投了上十家都是同样的回应…这样下去我也不打算长留日本了 既然挤不进主流社会圈子也赚不到什么钱 不如搏一回去欧美
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有金币去欧美呀,我会4门语言,要当年有金币我早跑了
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我也会四门语言。但是没有技能去欧美也找不到工作啊
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那就难受了,日本IT就算读専門学校出来也还是派遣。
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大学院啥的出来都很多派遣呢,派遣的薪资和待遇比老中高多了
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嗯嗯,日本IT有90%派遣,不奇怪
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是河南话 四川话 上海话 客家话吗?
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这太难了,我都不会
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【徹底取材】技能実習生の闇 賃金不払い計2700万円で倒産 長時間労働に劣悪な寮生活 愛媛【ウラドリ】
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那我考上了top修士呢
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比明泽维新的概率都低,而且日本好多大手企業工作文化更恶臭
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不过我已经考上了呀 专业和情報有点沾边吧
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恭喜,毕业一定要进自社開発もしくは受託開発
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再恶臭也没国内恶臭吧现在 而且也没金币去欧美 最优解了算是
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确实,那就适应吧,有时间学好英语毕业挤一挤外資系
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感谢分享
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在游戏业,部门的team leader就是专门卒。
每年还是在加薪不至于跟新卒倒挂,みなし残業月间20,有时会自主出勤
感觉海外业务多的就还算得上white,没有什么海外业务就只能硬吃円安影响了
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游戏业不清楚。我只能肯定日本IT整体落后
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同游戏业
公司文化很好
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日本当然离欧美差远了,适合生活不适合工作。
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不过要是欧美留学生现在还能找得到工作,就不会来挤日本了。op想二润欧美估计得等这个周期结束。
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感谢
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我就在日本的it行业,避开所谓的老牌大手去一些ベンチャー或者成长为大手了的ベンチャー会是另一番景象哦。
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而且和美国比起来,工资就算降30%,物价可是便宜了一半不止。日本说说物价一直在涨,但整体来看还是比欧美便宜太多了,稍微有些业绩的公司的薪资也确实在涨
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- Author: hadowbanhahaha
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感谢建议,我最近再尝试欧美外企
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有个叫Wantedly的招聘平台,这上面的企业相对都比较创新,工作环境其实有些比外企更好。日企不管怎样受劳动法限制更多,无极端原因基本没有办法开除员工,但欧美外企就是各种理由花式裁员(比如日本IBM),哪怕在日本也是。
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用过,都不理我。。。。
不过我手里项目还有一两年,结束了再看看吧
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我在日企养老,反正就适合我这种躺平的人,天天活不多定时加班假期也多,这样舒服过一辈子就足够了
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人际关系嘛我接触的日本人都挺好大家一起乐呵乐呵躺平一放假就出去滑雪爬山露营啥的,跟老中那种一周单休天天搞人情的不同。 至于什么不会变通啥的,日本人确实比较单纯死板,但是本人也不想追求什么创新赚大钱,学技术干个五年再跳也来得及
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不知道你在哪里工作,日本IT薪资可不是降30%而是至少砍半。现在1200w年薪才6.6w刀。。。1200w在一般企业中已经接近非高管的天花板了。同样IT大厂的senior,日本2000w差不多是美国30w以上的水平,按照汇率一半都不到
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- Author: SnooCats4731
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1200w按照150的汇率是近8万刀,怎么会只有6.6w呢?
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哦对,6.6是1000w
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你别换算刀啊
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为什么不换算?实际购买力就是下降。iphone涨不涨?奢侈品涨不涨?汽车房子,日常用品涨不涨?这些涨价就是因为汇率的下跌,实际购买力就是出现了下滑
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当然这是今年所有国家都面临的,被美元收割。但是因为日本自身经济问题,汇率崩成这样的只有日本。结果就是输入性通胀高企,物价飞涨,民不聊生。日本人都开始出海打工挣钱了
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跟美国比才砍30%?
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跟美国比砍的可不止30。我在日本一年¥12mil,跑美国之后现在一年$220k,降了比一半都多。虽然在日本当初没工作经验,但是我觉得我现在带2年工作经验回日本也挣不到¥30mil
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同日本生活,我还想着转码呢。
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从一个坑跳到另一个坑。。。。
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不知道为什么有人给你点踩。我现在的工作到手也就18w、至少it工资高一点吧
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
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干五年以上工资高,但总是感觉没发展。
日本IT下限上限都很低,除非进外资或是一些特殊领域。
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我那个工作更没发展,完全没有技术含量
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
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自学试试看吧,这行不能自学干不长的
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- Score: 1
- ID: krk5v5s
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老哥,你是前辈。我想问一下,我是国内工科专业毕业、it零基础,入门学什么好就业。我想先去派遣干着
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:00:52 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: krk6imt
- Ups=3 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk6imt/
Java案件最多。
但我当年是自学JavaScript和Ruby入行的。
建议来日本读大学院然后找个自社開発もしくは受託開発
专门学校纯属浪费钱,毕业也是IT派遣
- Author: RecordingTop1913
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:04:49 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krk7221
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk7221/
谢谢,但是我不想上学了。先去派遣也没关系,先干着积累经验可行吗
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:07:06 UTC
- Score: 5
- ID: krk7daw
- Ups=5 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk7daw/
难,最近中国10年经验跑来日本的太多了,好多人都待机。
- Author: RecordingTop1913
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:08:46 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krk7le0
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk7le0/
是语言问题吧,我听说语言挺重要的
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:14:49 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: krk8e1t
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk8e1t/
一方面,习大大倒车水平太高
另一方面,日本没那么大市场,中国随便来点人都能改变整个格局
- Author: RecordingTop1913
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:16:02 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krk8k1l
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk8k1l/
多亏了习主席的指导
- Author: RecordingTop1913
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:09:41 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krk7psl
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk7psl/
主要是等我读完大学院都30出头了。这种新卒还有人要吗?
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:11:30 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: krk7yhp
- Ups=3 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk7yhp/
抱歉,不清楚,我没在日本读过书
- Author: RecordingTop1913
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:12:40 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krk83xw
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk83xw/
没关系,谢谢🙏
- Author: RecordingTop1913
- Created: 2024-02-22 03:51:29 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: krk582a
- Ups=3 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk582a/
我打算转it后一边学技术一边学英语。拿身份后二润
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 03:53:11 UTC
- Score: 5
- ID: krk5ghb
- Ups=5 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk5ghb/
有可能,难度不低的。
- Author: DietrichLin
- Created: 2024-02-22 02:45:11 UTC
- Score: 6
- ID: krjviqk
- Ups=6 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krjviqk/
所谓物价稳定都是靠税金的补贴罢了,谈不上神不神话,企业摆烂吃政府补助一个インボイス炸的一堆人哭爹喊娘。全球化环境下,通货膨胀是一定会有的,你不想也会被输入型通胀拉起来,最重要的问题还是想办法怎么把AD线拉上去。
- Author: SakuraSakuraqq
- Created: 2024-02-22 02:50:56 UTC
- Score: 51
- ID: krjwe73
- Ups=51 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krjwe73/
建议回国,更容易成为人上人
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 03:28:19 UTC
- Score: 7
- ID: krk1xts
- Ups=7 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk1xts/
不建议回国,不容易成为天龙人
- Author: lolspint
- Created: 2024-02-25 11:58:50 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: ks219qt
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/ks219qt/
回国吧,你不可能的,信我
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-25 14:45:50 UTC
- Score: 5
- ID: ks2ldtc
- Ups=5 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/ks2ldtc/
https://preview.redd.it/qbyck8zuuqkc1.jpeg?width=950&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70ece86de9584f85f692035657e50c4d98e6f1a9
- Author: fuckatlus
- Created: 2024-02-26 08:30:47 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: ks6xz7r
- Ups=3 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/ks6xz7r/
好图
- Author: warlock88888
- Created: 2024-02-22 03:17:10 UTC
- Score: 10
- ID: krk0atj
- Ups=10 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk0atj/
中国大,赶紧回去建设它啊。
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- Author: warlock88888
- Created: 2024-02-23 07:10:17 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krqes3q
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krqes3q/
吓尿了😱
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-26 03:22:12 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: ks6185k
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/ks6185k/
不是我干的,不过能在这论坛里的或多或少知道中国现在什么德行
- Author: Pilpapeiiooi
- Created: 2024-02-22 03:40:50 UTC
- Score: 18
- ID: krk3px9
- Ups=18 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk3px9/
很客观,我一直都强调不要戴着滤镜看日本,真要来工作必须三思而后行。可是呢,很多人却认为我在劝退,我只是把事实说出来居然就受不了了吗?
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 03:43:16 UTC
- Score: 17
- ID: krk42by
- Ups=17 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk42by/
是的,真能呆住的人不会因为别人说几句就破防。
我当年无人支持也还是留下来了
- Author: RecordingTop1913
- Created: 2024-02-22 03:42:16 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krk3x6t
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | FlairColor=dark | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk3x6t/
不知道为什么有人给你点踩。我现在的工作到手也就18w、至少it工资高一点吧
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 03:45:10 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: krk4c3z
- Ups=3 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk4c3z/
干五年以上工资高,但总是感觉没发展。
日本IT下限上限都很低,除非进外资或是一些特殊领域。
- Author: polpot8964
- Created: 2024-02-22 03:44:45 UTC
- Score: 6
- ID: krk4a2t
- Ups=6 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk4a2t/
物价上涨不才正常么?这么多年都是通货紧缩
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 03:46:16 UTC
- Score: 4
- ID: krk4hta
- Ups=4 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk4hta/
可基本工资不涨呀,日本现在一片哀嚎。
- Author: williamlu594
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:06:03 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: krk7867
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk7867/
我现在某超一线, 到手就7.5, 干的算是跟代码有关的工作, 在这里基本月光. 如果到了日本, 能像这样做个月光族吗
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:10:55 UTC
- Score: 6
- ID: krk7vmp
- Ups=6 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk7vmp/
信息太少,一般工资降一档,且日本合法或灰色产业发达。
你要控制不住自己来了也攒不了钱
- Author: Xzcv321
- Created: 2024-02-23 14:56:24 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krrt47k
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krrt47k/
什么意思?
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-26 03:21:25 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: ks6145m
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/ks6145m/
日本用钱可以买到很多服务,也没有被警察突袭坑钱的可能。
不少人来了管不住自己,把钱都败光的事例我听过好多
- Author: Xzcv321
- Created: 2024-02-26 04:02:43 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: ks66oj2
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/ks66oj2/
被警察突袭是本番行为才会被突袭?
我在这边只买比较便宜那种,人也特别特别不错,就是没有本番。但是价格真的很低,而且安全
不知道这种如何 会有影响不
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-26 04:34:16 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: ks6amqv
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/ks6amqv/
据说不会,这种属于灰色产业,一般不查
- Author: Xzcv321
- Created: 2024-02-26 04:06:47 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: ks677ke
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/ks677ke/
但是那个说是只能接待日本人 我经常混进去 这种类型的有潜在问题吗
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-26 04:35:03 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: ks6aq7u
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/ks6aq7u/
不清楚,我有女朋友所以从来都没去过,只是听别人讲故事有所了解
- Author: run_away_soon
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:08:49 UTC
- Score: 22
- ID: krk7lni
- Ups=22 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk7lni/
分享的内容很有意义,不过那么想当人上人你还是返中吧。 估计去了欧美也会嚷嚷什么亚裔歧视、职业天花板。
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:13:08 UTC
- Score: -13
- ID: krk8662
- Ups=-13 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk8662/
欸,我来这些年听过不少人对我说过,说自已要当人上人。
我祖上据说是军队的,那些在中国才算人上人
- Author: run_away_soon
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:17:58 UTC
- Score: 18
- ID: krk8t2d
- Ups=18 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk8t2d/
哦哟,那你祖上可真是人上人啊,但你现在这么混成这样😋
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:21:03 UTC
- Score: -3
- ID: krk97n5
- Ups=-3 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Controversiality=1 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk97n5/
人民中5%的反革命分子,被屠的就剩我这一支
到我这代就普通贫农
好多中国人都有一个皇帝梦,区别是愿不愿意承认罢了
- Author: run_away_soon
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:39:29 UTC
- Score: 13
- ID: krkbk5f
- Ups=13 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkbk5f/
但我觉得有这种想法的人要么改变,要么回国比较好。 既然生活在自由平等的国家,不搞什么鄙视链,社会福利还向低收入、残疾人倾斜,你心里把人分成三六九等也是徒增烦恼。 反过来,你想做土皇帝把人踩在脚下也做不到。但是在中国可以啊,所以还是回国比较好。 至于你是在上面的还是被拆的我就不知道了。既然想把别人踩在脚下,也一定做好了被踩的准备了吧😋
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:47:42 UTC
- Score: -6
- ID: krkcku8
- Ups=-6 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Controversiality=1 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkcku8/
个人经历不一样。
本人经历太多尔虞我诈,对有些价值观很难认同。
我倒不是觉得有些人生而低贱,像我在日本献血也有年头了,每次献完吃着免费饼干的时候,也有想过这些问题
我是认为,人需要管,管理者和被管理者不管怎样都有一个上下关系。
- Author: Shikabane666
- Created: 2024-02-22 07:42:25 UTC
- Score: 6
- ID: krkuhd2
- Ups=6 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkuhd2/
我是认为,人需要管,管理者和被管理者不管怎样都有一个上下关系。
不好意思,日企不就是这么做的吗?
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 07:52:47 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krkvdoh
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkvdoh/
本人最受不了日本工作就是,日本人不会变通,非常喜欢在细枝末节斤斤计较,对房间里的大象却视而不见。
- Author: Shikabane666
- Created: 2024-02-22 08:05:25 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krkwgiv
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkwgiv/
虽然我觉得这是上下关系带来的结果。
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 08:08:59 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krkwrio
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkwrio/
人类社会哪里都有上下关系。
在中国工作过应该不难理解
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:33:22 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krkasiq
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Controversiality=1 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkasiq/
而且我祖上对人民很好的,你要不要猜猜最后是谁举报整死他们的
- Author: XMZ8964
- Created: 2024-02-23 01:07:15 UTC
- Score: 3
- ID: krp2pkq
- Ups=3 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krp2pkq/
好死
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-23 01:17:44 UTC
- Score: -4
- ID: krp4d1q
- Ups=-4 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krp4d1q/
https://preview.redd.it/z99n0d0vk8kc1.jpeg?width=1260&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84b3c2a650a2d7d157fcc0aa17e6bfe8b17a3a6f
- Author: Comfortable_Banana_7
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:22:36 UTC
- Score: 11
- ID: krk9evc
- Ups=11 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk9evc/
经验分享,点开就是it ,点开什么分享都是it,你们支人就不会别的了吗
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:25:35 UTC
- Score: 12
- ID: krk9spz
- Ups=12 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krk9spz/
IT, Information technology,アイティー
是日本对外人接受度最高的行业。
别的要不苦力工要不精英
- Author: Comfortable_Banana_7
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:27:30 UTC
- Score: -6
- ID: krka1kd
- Ups=-6 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krka1kd/
我寻思我也不是it 的,我做游戏美术的怎么也被接受了?
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 04:31:33 UTC
- Score: 15
- ID: krkak40
- Ups=15 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkak40/
不想和你抬杠,
日本多的是苦力和IT。
建议你分享一下游戏美术经历,让大家开开眼
- Author: sunxiaochuan-256
- Created: 2024-02-22 05:13:23 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: krkfn1i
- Ups=1 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkfn1i/
老哥,我现在双非一本大二,是选择毕业找亲戚安排工作,还是去考日本修士留日工作,国内考研不考虑,能否给个建议
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 05:22:20 UTC
- Score: 4
- ID: krkgnqo
- Ups=4 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkgnqo/
这样吧,你来日本旅游2周,以游客身份观察体验一下日本工作文化。
然后想想自己是否愿意接受这样的工作文化。
你大概就有答案了
- Author: Ok-Pen-3757
- Created: 2024-02-22 05:53:35 UTC
- Score: 8
- ID: krkk455
- Ups=8 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkk455/
互相run,run日本的看中了欧美的工薪和生活,run欧美的看中了日本的同是亚洲人的人文与社会
历史是一个轮回,现在开始互换
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 05:55:20 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: krkkart
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkkart/
我不是
我来日本是因为没金币只能来日本闯。
在日本生活这些年我对日本文化一直无感。
- Author: PriorityHairy2821
- Created: 2024-02-22 06:10:19 UTC
- Score: -7
- ID: krkluwq
- Ups=-7 | Downs=0 | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkluwq/
一句话,这个国家没未来,苟全性命而已。
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-02-22 06:15:48 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: krkmeyl
- Ups=2 | Downs=0 | Submitter=true | Permalink=/r/runtoJapan/comments/1awtzfa/为奴十二年/krkmeyl/
我能确定没太大发展,不过再想想日本把这小地方治理的也不错
- Author: PriorityHairy2821
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氛围基本上没什么活力了,强撑罢了
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不过我能确定欧美那些吃福利的难民来了会饿死的
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很客观了。日本适合生活,不适合工作。非要工作,也只适合做数字游民这种不用上班不和脑回路清奇的日本领导打交道的职业。
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大多数人选择日本是因为永驻入籍相对简单吧,毕竟五眼联盟拿身份太难。要说最适合日本的,还得是有钱旅居那伙人
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建议到无人岛默默独立生存,摆脱法律约束和社会福利,做真正的自己
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不如穿越异世界大开杀戒
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没在日本生活过,但是看下来,在日本不也是加班文化很足,上下等级严格,工作业不好找,跟国内不是差不多吗?那为什么那么多人润日。
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加班日本政府管的严,没中国那么变态但比欧美还是差
上下等级这个会社和会社真的不一样,昭和老头开的会社都一股味,但我现在这家还可以。
工作不好找只针对外人。
打个分,普通人在中国生活是40分的话,来日本起码70吧。
日本你骂两句岸田根本没人理你,而中国连李克强都没了。
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为什么这么多人天真的以为欧美不加班?硅谷大厂这波裁员开始以来一堆h1b自愿加班到晚9都是正常现象。
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毕业两年不到目前在上海一家it小公司混着,打算去帝大修考。 为什么想去日本?因为我去不了欧美呗。。。
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建议混着,日本现在经济也不好。
不过最近有遇到经历三个月上海大养生饿了3个月跑过来一提共产党就满肚子怨气的
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你日现在越来越卷的原因是一堆欧美本老钟跑回你日养老 支那猪我劝你多回国
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具体说说?
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就是一堆老钟感觉留美/留澳/留新 无望 又不想送中 往日本跑的挺多的
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怎么说?
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违反rules第五条,请您注意发表适当言论。
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IT不建议去你日 去欧美给老白人做苦力不香嘛 我认识的几个去制造业倒是觉得还好
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事实就是来你日的大部分在欧美找不到工作 美国的卷度早就超乎做题家的想象了
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中肯的,你说的这些即使是日本一般大学的情报修士一不小心进错公司也有可能经历,black企业榨人可以说是毫不手软
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我……说句难听的,能把「欧美」放一起,就说明对那边生活全凭想象 (整天「东亚」的同理
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别杠,我又不教地理。
那我难道说美国英国德国比利时瑞士丹麦……
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谁让你报菜名了…… 现实中喜欢讲「欧美」的人分两类,一种对美国生活与欧洲生活的巨大差异没什么概念,模模糊糊地觉得都是「西方」应该也差不太多吧 另一种就比较坏了:当谈论福利(医保/各种预防或应对失业的保障),公共假期数量/休假时长、治安、公共设施、文化、艺术等等东西的时候,拿欧洲来当遮羞布;其他时候就是在车子房子票子这三个玩意上面打转(没车的/房子面积小于几百平米的/收入低于几十万刀的反复被开除人籍),并反复嘲笑欧洲有多穷未来有多黑暗,与此同时想破脑袋也理解不了为什么欧洲人工资这么低却不移民美国 所以我才坚持觉得能把「欧美」放一起的属于对某些地方的生活缺乏了解
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多谢讲解,我和欧美人工作过,也面试过欧美企业。
跟日企比欧美企业没那麽多怪事,人也比日本人好相处。
个人梦想是有个大农场,亲近自然,不需要压力太大,而且对古罗马文化等等也一直有兴趣。
平均是一回事,我个人感受日本IT工作时间长,挣得也不多,还要处理奇奇怪怪的人情世故。欧美派遣现场没事就放假,人的精神状态也普遍比日本人好。你可以说这是特例,但我个人感受如此。
Op家境也不好,学生时代一直想去欧美读书,最后IT去的日本,和大多数来日本的人不同,我一开始就不喜欢日本,最近条件成熟才考虑去欧美看看。
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那显然应该去欧洲啊,休假多,难裁员,人的爱好更丰富,申根区内随便逛(反过来我看纽约那边约意大利签证已经排到5月去了而且中国人只能签出来1年的H1B每年都得续签并且大概率次次被check)
美国公共假期数量比中国还少,新移民直到绿卡之前都被身份赶着走(at will employment=永久试用期随时裁员 + 2个月找不到工作就滚蛋),待出神经病的多的是(实在找不到可以去一亩三分地品鉴各种amazon伤痕文学)
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- Author: hadowbanhahaha
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嗯嗯,你说的这些很现实,我最近也有在考虑是真的移民过去还是年假玩几周就行。
不过我会再多做些调查后做决定。
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也就是说,美国没有开摆的选项吗
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要么生的早,那时候工作好找,是个人就要(传说amazon做完OA就发offer),一周工作几个小时(别问那些twitter员工现在怎么样了),股票别卖现在就财务自由,H1B中签率很高,万一没抽中也能去其他国家的分部混一年再L1回来(现在像Google这种地方已经freeze global transfer了),绿卡排期短(啥你说那时候咋还有去ICC的是不是傻?听不见听不见……) 要么靠婚绿/政庇解决身份问题 很多在美中国人和精神美国人最自豪的就是美国不养闲人,看见穷人看不起病比自己病好了还开心,你说能不能开摆🤣
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OP你好,QS100英国水硕,理工科,来日本能找到会社的白领工作吗
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难呀
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没什么机会吗,去当地的欧美企业也行,好像还有日本人来我们学校招大学生
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日本现在也卷。
好像还有日本人来我们学校招大学生真有可以试试,我也听说过英国留不住
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好的好的,英国确实难留
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欧美有一个问题是他们也有外人的概念,而且在外貌上差距太大,东亚男很难升上去。bamboo ceiling。至少美国是这样,印度人升得飞快
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先熬出来身份再说,人不能得陇望蜀,日本待久了就忘了叮咚鸡和疯狂宇宙
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太对了!!!
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还是日本好
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具体说说
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不喜欢二次元就滚
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在日本生活七年已经麻木了😂
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有机会还是去美国,比加澳英好得多!
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