你们怎么评价进击的巨人结局?从多方面,越多越好,多多分享お願い
- Author: hadowbanhahaha
- Created: 2024-05-21 11:24:07 UTC
- Score: 9
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看得很爽,但有些牵强,逻辑也不太好
简单来说不如钢炼
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-21 11:53:45 UTC
- Score: 5
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逻辑确实有很多漏洞,结局真是有点龙头蛇尾了,很遗憾他搞得如此仓促,后期三笠的人格渐渐有点立不住了因为终章把很多事情都变抽象模糊了,真的很遗憾…
- Author: hxhsnx
- Created: 2024-05-21 19:21:02 UTC
- Score: 2
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在谏山并不发达的大脑里,一个科技进步到蒸汽时代及以后的国家居然可以容忍一个专制王权政体,这基本上属于形而上学范畴了。原本我还期望剧情朝着艾伦灭掉马莱-收复所有巨人之力(包括莱纳几人)-与王室合力修改所有艾尔迪亚人的记忆-建立民主共和政体-确保国家得到充分武装后废弃巨人之力-在“路”崩塌后,以及自己寿命到尽头后死去-留下一个繁荣的国家这样的结局发展。实在是想太多。还是当个打打杀杀的热血漫画看看得了。
- Author: moeTou_Pie
- Created: 2024-05-22 11:39:51 UTC
- Score: 1
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墙国现在都有5G了呢,还不照样是专制王权?
- Author: hxhsnx
- Created: 2024-05-22 23:03:18 UTC
- Score: 1
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墙国专制王权,但不照样要在宪法里写上民主,自由,搞民主代议制,虽然只是表面功夫但是至少像那么回事,有那么个形状
- Author: poi2038
- Created: 2024-05-26 10:43:52 UTC
- Score: 1
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剧情里对应的就是第一次世界大战时期,你去看看1918年世界上有几个国家都是什么政体
- Author: hxhsnx
- Created: 2024-05-26 18:23:54 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: l5rzmxg
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一战主流国家里还保留帝王的早都进行过资产阶级改革了。
- Author: zsj0556
- Created: 2024-05-21 11:42:07 UTC
- Score: 1
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一坨大粪
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-21 11:51:40 UTC
- Score: 2
- ID: l50arik
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详细说说,主要是哪里让你特别觉得傻逼
- Author: ckyuhandsome
- Created: 2024-05-21 11:43:46 UTC
- Score: 2
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單說結局有點弱智
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-21 11:51:10 UTC
- Score: 2
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是吧,让我想起一些草草了之的古早剧情,而且也不新颖,逻辑漏洞有。虽然还是爆哭,但实在是太仓促了。
- Author: ckyuhandsome
- Created: 2024-05-21 11:58:11 UTC
- Score: 2
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主要是沒有必要這樣做 都有那東西(不想劇透)了 還怕什麼 結局真的越看越弱智
- Author: Mountain_Opening3657
- Created: 2024-05-21 11:58:44 UTC
- Score: 1
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挺有意思的
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-21 12:44:53 UTC
- Score: 2
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嗯…因吹斯汀
- Author: Otherwise_Internet71
- Created: 2024-05-21 12:24:15 UTC
- Score: 1
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弱智。本质上是他也不知道怎么回答自己的问题
- Author: Express_Freedom1820
- Created: 2024-05-21 12:33:38 UTC
- Score: 7
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不像一个同动画该有的内容
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-21 12:44:41 UTC
- Score: 5
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你说的对,越想越难过,结束仓促,角色立不住,对话越来越抽象模糊,然后艾伦第一次发动地鸣就决定要把人类全突突了,说是觉得没有解决办法,但他根本不跟人沟通,他怎么知道没有办法。感觉所有人都白死了…
- Author: kdctr
- Created: 2024-05-21 14:54:39 UTC
- Score: 4
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赶工太厉害,但大方向还算合理。巨人里面的种族和战争的问题比现实的巴以还麻烦,谏山要是能解决这问题那可以直接拿诺贝尔和平奖了。个人觉得片尾小屏幕里的剧情才是点睛之笔
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-22 08:23:20 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: l5556xk
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你说的对,确实,我是觉得巨人确实是超现实的因素,我自己也觉得没法解决,这个结局我接受,我只是觉得太仓促了,哎
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-22 08:23:33 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: l5557k2
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你说的对,确实,我是觉得巨人确实是超现实的因素,我自己也觉得没法解决,这个结局我接受,我只是觉得太仓促了,哎
- Author: Kr1sh1na
- Created: 2024-05-21 15:07:50 UTC
- Score: 1
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几乎所有角色都像人格分裂
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-22 13:08:42 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: l55yibl
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後期我自己覺得三笠人設崩了,鋪墊太少,還不如一開始就是個苦情愛情番
- Author: Yasu-Tomohiro
- Created: 2024-05-21 15:27:44 UTC
- Score: 3
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艾伦和阿尔敏最后的对话我不做评价,因为我对于角色性的理解,以及对于进击的巨人这部作品中角色的定位没有什么特殊的意见。但是最后世界大战、艾尔迪亚灭国、千年以后又开始怪诞虫和巨人的轮回这个结尾的狗几把蒙太奇我是深恶痛绝。本来以为谏山能够探讨一点深入的东西,最后还是回到历史轮回的虚无主义,可谓之大俗,也许只是笔力不够,但在我看来这一段才是真正且充分地暴露了谏山在剧情中后期乃至从全局来看根本不知道自己究竟在讲什么的事实
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-22 08:32:02 UTC
- Score: 1
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我也太讨厌了!可以理解所谓历史是个轮回,但是真没啥出奇的东西可以讲
- Author: zhinarchist
- Created: 2024-05-21 20:04:25 UTC
- Score: 3
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角色方面问题不大,没脑子的热血傻逼得到了足够统治世界的巨大力量很可能就要开始往偏执扭曲图光世界的方向走了,观感差但起码还可以说艾伦本来设定就不聪明。
主要问题在于怪诞虫和祖奶奶毫无铺垫的机械降神,这就属实是实打实的水平下滑了。
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-22 13:07:54 UTC
- Score: 1
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對,都不解釋清楚,好討厭,最後都要有一個硬湊出來的Boss嗎哎
- Author: Richman2024
- Created: 2024-05-21 23:59:07 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: l53jeig
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神作
- Author: Shiratamano
- Created: 2024-05-22 00:15:27 UTC
- Score: 1
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不像是碳基生物能够写出来的东西
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-22 13:06:10 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: l55y566
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哈哈誰說諫山創不是艾倫轉世呢
- Author: Katsu_075
- Created: 2024-05-22 00:56:48 UTC
- Score: 1
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这玩意根本就没有办法收场 要处理的问题太多了 时间 仇恨与和平 不对称的力量怎么合理消失什么的 每个都很麻烦
- Author: Katsu_075
- Created: 2024-05-22 00:57:55 UTC
- Score: 1
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如果作者懒得想了 说艾伦能力不够搞不出完美结局 我倒也接受 因为谁不想摆烂呢
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-22 13:05:38 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: l55y2ec
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嗯⋯很痛心活在殘酷的現實世界還要看如此殘酷的動畫,但沒辦法,還是愛他嗚嗚
- Author: XMZ8964
- Created: 2024-05-22 03:13:54 UTC
- Score: 1
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神作,对至特攻
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-22 12:59:12 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: l55x5oq
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對至特工是啥⋯
- Author: Ok-Chest-3517
- Created: 2024-05-22 06:54:07 UTC
- Score: 1
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發動戰爭需要藉口,什麽恐懼巨人的力量,種族有罪啥的只是權力者爲了給發動戰爭的一個理由罷了。
最後結局的畫面沒有巨人一樣不是有戰爭嗎?就説明了這個。
瑪雷 就跟現在的中國一樣,反日,洗腦式反日教育,無非就是政治需求而已。俄國一樣有侵略了中國而且還拿走了大片領土,都沒啥。因爲政治上沒有需要反俄的需求。(巨人有個叫 賈碧·布朗 小女孩就被洗腦嚴重 認爲島上的人全是惡魔都該死)
巨人就是一個政治片,被中國禁了。大概動畫中出現了内容,如洗腦式的仇恨教育,對方外仇恨啥的。中國不是也有嗎?洗腦式的反日教育,反日反美等。
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-22 12:58:52 UTC
- Score: 1
- ID: l55x3y3
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嗯嗯,灣/港友說得在理,不過我知道它是政治片,現在只是對結局感到很遺憾
- Author: Ok_Initiative8925
- Created: 2024-05-25 17:37:47 UTC
- Score: 1
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🐴,看完来答
- Author: Mirrorsbalalala
- Created: 2024-05-26 02:25:29 UTC
- Score: 1
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来,就等你了