为何日右如此重视夫妇同姓

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因为是儒毒入脑的男权保逼哥布林 天天说夫妻同姓是日本文化传统不可破坏，我寻思这就和贵国主张台湾自古就是兲朝不可分割的一部分一样可笑。 恁日到明治维新为止几千年来屁民阶层都是没有姓氏的，有姓氏的都是贵族阶层，最起码也要是武士阶层。拿日本战国时代举几个例子：织田信长的妻子被称为浓姬或者斋藤氏，但是本名一直是斋藤归蝶。德川家康的正室“築山殿”本姓今川，也没改姓。独眼龙的妻子“爱姬”平常除了这个称呼一般就是田村愛姫。幸村的妻子竹林院是名将大谷吉继的女儿，也没改姓。再往前来点日本最著名的源义经源赖朝兄弟，两个人妻子分别都是叫郷御前或者藤原郷御前和北条政子。而平清盛夫妻虽然都是平氏，但来自不同分家和婚姻也没关系，可以类比成雏田和宁次结婚。 而日本全名拥有姓氏已经晚到了十九世纪中期，为了好统计而在民法中“施舍”给屁民的。恁日右真要这么爱传统，那可以先看看自己算不算“上国民”，不是的话赶紧放弃姓氏来尊重传统吧。

所以打文化牌只是为了掩盖恁日老男人们想要打击女性独立和个体权利罢了，恁日的いえ制服和贵国大家长制本质没有区别，都是父权产物，实际上是维护男性在家庭中的中心地位和以丈夫为户主妻子为其归属的家庭结构。夫妻别姓意味着女性可以不“归属”夫家，也可能让孩子不随父姓。恁日右最担心的就是别姓合法化之后女性自主权提升，父权地位下降。现在贵国自由女权都开始思考冠姓权的重要性了，然后再看看讨论冠姓权问题时贵国男性是什么反应，和日右本质没有任何区别。

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魔

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屁眼怪们对着日本疯狂念经，结果美国也要冠夫姓，最后绕一圈得出结论，果然我支才是高地

哦，美国还不准堕胎，日本上世纪50年代就能堕了，这很明显就是倭畜野蛮，不服耶稣教化

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笑拉了

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你有点偷换概念了，美国正好就是“選択的夫婦別姓”。

ネトウヨ们碰上夫妇别姓问题也是这样爱说“欧美也是随夫姓”（偷换概念一：实际普遍是可选择夫妇别姓）、“中国才是夫妇别姓，提倡夫妇别姓的都是老中工作员”（偷换概念二：台湾也是夫妇别姓），不知道你是不是吸收了ネトウヨ们的精华。

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美国劳保就不是保了？

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左逼魔怔完了

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21世纪近十年的全球主流就是文化战争😮‍💨，疫情前是进步主义、metoo占上风，疫情后是保守主义、incel占上风。covid影响真的不可估量。

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这下举办了，还是挨个举办

看出来Incel多急了吧

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习惯了

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能让鹅太监急着发长文 太君就做对了😁

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一人发一个大和抚子

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实在不想让你老婆跟你姓的话，你也可以跟你老婆姓

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哈哈，哪来那么多支蛆，也是玩上举报了

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Because tradition good thus conservative value good, retard right wing people all think the same, from China to Japan and USA

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其实改了也不会有什么人反对，这事真就是个历史遗留问题，当年西化的时候和一夫一妻一起学的

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こんにちは。公開コメントで申し訳ありませんが、ご許可なくメッセージを送るのは失礼だと重々承知しておりますので、このような形でご連絡させていただきます。投稿はとても興味深く、ぜひお友達になりたいです。お友達リクエストかダイレクトメッセージをいただければ幸いです。近いうちにご連絡できることを願っています。

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欧美几乎全是夫妇同姓，想必早已遍地右翼。而早已实现夫妇别姓的中国理所当然的已经成为文明进步神国🥵

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你整天拿欧美出来拐，欧美正好普遍就是“選択的夫婦別姓”。

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哈哈，这下欧美真成进步神国了，还好我没生活在那里

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欧洲右翼本来就也不少啊，用得着想？

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那些拿欧美说事的别几把闹了，欧美真几把没人在乎别人姓什么…..刚好一个uk sub的新闻，年轻姑娘们根本不改姓了…..

https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/s/ZGJ6e2eQ4E

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恁日一婚平均年龄30岁左右吧。23年劳厚省数据男的一婚平均年龄31.1，女的29.5。

我在恁日工作之后马上就申请了通称（日本姓名），之后我光跑银行和各种通信营业厅、公共账单更改信息就花了接近两个月，还有一部分不支持外国人用通称的一直保留到入籍之后才又去改的，光那几年增加的账户信息又有一堆。恁日保逼和在我评论下瞎骂的Incel哥布林是不会考虑恁日女性改姓又要牺牲自己多少精力和时间的。生活在日本二三十、三四十年的日女要改的信息可比我这新移民多多了，恁日公家也是周末休息，幸亏我后来自己做生意还方便入籍之后去改那些保险和剩下的项目都快崩溃了，都不敢想恁日女要是上班得请多少假去跑，之前我就问过一个日本朋友，全部改完花了接近两年。

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虽然不是日本女性，但自己护照可以选择改名/改姓以及家人和日本公共系统打过交道，感觉改姓对英语国家女性已经够麻烦，对日本女性麻烦程度直接x2

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哈哈，天天舔那些日本女人，为什么不找集美，你崇洋媚外

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这些是基本要改的，我归化之后这些大部分都去改过，很多还要重新办理比如银行卡。几个月处理不完是常态。日本市役所也是和普通牛马一样你什么时候上班它什么时候上班，你双休它也双休，你只要是上班牛马那你只能请假或者动年假。而且你越是财产多越是高知越麻烦，又牵扯到一堆财产和国家资格证书比如医师之类的是你必须而且马上要去改的。还有著作和论文牵扯的麻烦更多。恁日男和日右是真的不会在意日女要付出多少精力和时间的。

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• Author: MaryPaku
• Created: 2025-05-06 06:23:16 UTC
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其实只要把法律改成自己选就好了
想要同姓的就同姓 不想要的就随便

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• Author: hcjumper
• Created: 2025-05-05 18:14:45 UTC
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人家歐美是社會傳統而非法律強制，人家是給你選擇權而非規定，甩了日本幾條街了。

• Author: sbolic
• Created: 2025-05-05 18:30:23 UTC
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美右以后也会重视的🤔

• Author: Potential_Gold_8496
• Created: 2025-05-05 18:44:09 UTC
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据说日本只要继续改姓下去迟早有一天全国都姓佐藤

• Author: ExcellentFox6
• Created: 2025-05-06 16:05:01 UTC
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就算不改也是遲早的事

• Author: buxiangqule
• Created: 2025-05-05 19:28:58 UTC
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我好奇这年代了，这种爹味大的批爆的大男子主义老保能找到对象？

• Author: Big-Compote-8573
• Created: 2025-05-05 21:08:01 UTC
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有钱就行

• Author: Historical_Smile_564
• Created: 2025-05-06 03:45:44 UTC
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在你只，越有钱的越喜欢栓，没办法，织女就是这种慕强逼

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• Author: Historical_Smile_564
• Created: 2025-05-06 02:09:22 UTC
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嘿，你猜怎么着，越是喜欢栓的，现实里越能草香批，不是所有人都是傻子

• Author: runnow2022
• Created: 2025-05-06 08:24:47 UTC
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事实是保守主义者的生育率远远高于自由主义者

美国保守主义者的生育率在2.6左右，自由主义者1出头并且还在快速下降

这才是民主党非要引进非法移民的底层逻辑

这也是答主这样的左匪最大的问题：生活在自己的幻想中

• Author: Keal_NaNiWa
• Created: 2025-05-06 08:57:44 UTC
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所以放心好了，自由主义左畜会自我绝育的

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• Author: buxiangqule
• Created: 2025-05-06 10:26:05 UTC
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生育率也许是个考量，但美国几乎可以说是世界上唯一一个可以靠吸引全球年轻人才填补劳动力的国家。 如果生育率是引进非法移民的根本原因，那为什么不通过降低合法移民的门槛来解决？川普时代合法移民的门槛变低了吗？ 你们这样的老保随着川普上台更活跃了，但群体人数并不会增加多少，你们要如何解决生育问题？一夫多妻嗯造小孩吗？

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• Author: Akirajing
• Created: 2025-05-05 22:58:03 UTC
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主要是因为日本政府户籍登记是按照“户”来做的，一“户”人家是同一个姓比较简单，不过也没说必须得夫姓。

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因為有時候有些事會被一些人做成“標誌”，就是這個位置守不守得住，會被放大意義和抽離出來。

日本保守派許多人覺得，這個姓氏制度就是他們目前必須守住的點位。

• Author: Motor-Check5085
• Created: 2025-05-07 00:44:47 UTC
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对于他们来说确实如此，因为日本还有一些折腾人的制度，其中以年功序列制为代表。这些东西让一部分人受益，当年日本牛逼的时候他们有资本让别人闭嘴，但现在渐渐守不住了。

现在下行三十年+大通胀，还叠加少子化，社会开始反思这些东西是否合理。

• Author: Hungry-Worker-8948
• Created: 2025-05-06 00:00:24 UTC
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1

• Author: daikitay
• Created: 2025-05-06 07:30:37 UTC
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直接一步到位合成大佐藤吧

• Author: blue_ssubmarine
• Created: 2025-05-06 10:59:05 UTC
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什么合合乐

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• Created: 2025-05-06 11:17:59 UTC
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因为日右基本上活在梦里，注重理念纯粹性高于现实可行性。把夫妇同姓，户籍制度，男系皇统，反韩，极端排外跟反中反共反移民绑定在一起，让赞同后者的正常人因为不赞同前者而没法投日右的票。

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• Author: az508
• Created: 2025-05-06 14:34:08 UTC
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因为他们是傻逼啊

• Author: Nervous-Door-9061
• Created: 2025-05-07 01:43:36 UTC
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日本经济和政治方面在老麦的大刀阔斧下进行了严厉的改革，但是其本身社会意识形态的保守性还是一直都很强的。这个没有办法，只能靠人口迭代了。全世界的国家这方面其实都大差不差的，都得等抱持老旧观点的老人出清才行🥹

• Author: Independent-Fan-6849
• Created: 2025-05-09 18:34:47 UTC
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老婆夠強或娘家夠猛也能讓老公跟自己姓啊 櫻花比起什麼別姓，更在意能不能掌控老公的荷包