歸化好像還是住滿10年沒有變吧，剛剛開始加入這個sub我還以為大家都是奔著認真生活奔著歸化來的。是骨子裡還是想享受日本福利，隨時可以逃回去嗎。老老實實生活，繳稅，人家也不會歧視你吧。
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ztstillwater · 2026-07-29 09:51 UTC · +36 ·
p0fr490·润🇯🇵大手子· ↗归化难度更高，对日语要求高，而且是自由裁量，被拒不会给原因
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ytytku · 2026-07-29 10:43:44 UTC · +6 ·
p0fy6nb· ↗对
RemoteHoney · 2026-07-29 17:47:23 UTC · +2 ·
p0ift1i· ↗之前不是公認比永住簡單？
ztstillwater · 2026-07-29 20:31:27 UTC · +4 ·
p0ji0zx·润🇯🇵大手子· ↗所谓公认是假的
BeautifulBright3419 · 2026-07-29 09:55:43 UTC · +1 ·
p0frpyd· ↗就是啊，所以还是想两边拿好处嘛
CountryBackground617 · 2026-07-29 09:57:52 UTC · +3 ·
p0frzpk· ↗担心失业被赶吧
KenHansson · 2026-07-29 10:14:37 UTC · +47 ·
p0fu6yf· ↗刚从5年改成10年你就在这“没有变”了，还记得归化改的理由是不能和永住的难度倒挂吗？
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Expensive_You_3332 · 2026-07-29 10:22:39 UTC · +9 ·
p0fv9to· ↗因為永駐的年收條件可能會影響到歸化條件。 如果只是永駐，我完全不會去關心。夢想就是成為太君，而且我也不需要日本的任何社會福利。
Mitotsudaera · 2026-07-29 10:40:17 UTC · +33 ·
p0fxp38· ↗因为这个是影响所有人的，它今天能改永驻条件，明天就能改归化条件。
对于认真工作的人，在归化前也必然是想要拿到永驻的，毕竟更安定，不会轻易被送中。
至于你说的“老老实实生活缴税”就不会被歧视，我觉得你要么没在工作中和日本人真正打过交道，要么就干脆还没上班。
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SuccessfulOwl5168 · 2026-07-29 12:03:15 UTC · +3 ·
p0gaqrn· ↗永住比归化更安定？反了吧，归化是入籍啊，永住反而才容易被取消吧
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InstanceSpecific5326 · 2026-07-29 12:59:38 UTC · +8 ·
p0gla4x· ↗比工签安定
Mitotsudaera · 2026-07-29 14:08:26 UTC · +5 ·
p0gzwcc· ↗在归化前也必然是想要拿到永驻的，毕竟（比工签）更安定。。。
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gin419 · 2026-07-31 02:37:20 UTC · +1 ·
p0sqbkr· ↗相比中国很多人给我的歧视，日本人的这点算不了什么。可能因人因地而异吧。
Personal_Ad_7020 · 2026-07-29 11:04:28 UTC · +29 ·
p0g18uv· ↗现在归化标准实际操作中不允许比永住难度低，您就慢慢熬吧。
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Ok_Stuff_8677 · 2026-07-29 11:13:32 UTC · +9 ·
p0g2mps· ↗归化条件中由法务省自由裁量的部分，很大程度上是参考永住条件的。所以法务省这次改动永住政策，实际上等于隐性拉高了归化的审查门槛
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ToughEntrepreneur317 · 2026-07-29 11:39:10 UTC · +14 ·
p0g6opc· ↗永驻都这么难了，他还愿意让你站哪点日本的福利吗？
Kana_Joe · 2026-07-29 11:58:13 UTC · +9 ·
p0g9voj· ↗逃尼玛呢，永驻难道不是哪边好处都拿不到么，你告诉我老中有啥好处等你拿？要不是怕国内爹妈老了没人照顾，我不知道要归化？
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RemoteHoney · 2026-07-29 18:08:29 UTC · +2 ·
p0ikuj4· ↗有人說遺產繼承有問題
AccomplishedNerve888 · 2026-07-30 00:47:45 UTC · +3 ·
p0kwe18·关东地区· ↗你只要在日本住够十年工签也他妈要给日本交遗产税
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Ill-Specific-1731 · 2026-07-29 12:21:32 UTC · +22 ·
p0gdznp· ↗如果有正向情感連結，有家人的愛和支持，哪怕真是在窪地，我想我也不會那麼痛苦。鬧鐘底層雄性出生就是原罪，出生自帶debuff疊滿。本蛆不管在日本還是在窪地，都屬於無人在意的路邊一條，唯一區別就是日本沒人會跳臉羞辱我，一個人過工資每個月還能存一點。永駐，規化我連想都不去想了，作為沒有任何正向情感來源的散沙化原子人，在哪都是苟活，感受不到任何快樂，能在日本待一天算一天，哪天活不下去重開就重開吧。
yirongyiburong · 2026-07-29 12:23:23 UTC · +13 ·
p0gebta·中南海· ↗你能保证十年之间自己能一直拿到工签吗？
EggplantAdmirable999 · 2026-07-29 14:21:02 UTC · +2 ·
p0h2qle· ↗op隐藏了发言记录
KoedaNagi · 2026-07-29 16:03:01 UTC · +12 ·
p0hqr0x· ↗什么金鱼记忆，明明今年4月才改的归化政策，估计之后入籍条件也会同步永驻
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h3yZfish · 2026-07-29 16:29:05 UTC · +3 ·
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AdmirableImpact8873 · 2026-07-29 21:46:13 UTC · +1 ·
p0jy6ra· ↗永驻标准相对还是明确的
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PhilosophyMammoth748 · 2026-07-30 04:33:46 UTC · +7 ·
p0lxhdp· ↗你日移民政策改的实在是太快了，阿妹现在的EB12345系统是88年定下来的，这么多年只有执行细节上的微调和特殊个案（比如六四血卡）
Arthropleura-armata · 2026-07-31 00:48:20 UTC · +1 ·
p0s6ufe· ↗只能祈祷以后又变松也是一下子变了
DietrichLin · 2026-07-31 14:46:14 UTC · +1 ·
p0vvpum·神奈川县· ↗在高主席的带领下移民政策争取看齐马来西亚
Traditional-Ebb-7918 · 2026-07-30 05:12:01 UTC · +12 ·
p0m2ppv· ↗自己去调查。10年日配三小孩。老公1000+大手没换工作。永驻不许可。归化不许可（实际上无论什么条件，关东某县实际老中年初到现在0归化）
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Traditional-Ebb-7918 · 2026-07-30 05:13:10 UTC · +10 ·
p0m2v8i· ↗觉得自己有实力的来比比，日配主妇生三个，全部不许可。你们什么实力？
EuphoricDependent623 · 2026-07-30 16:12:32 UTC · +1 ·
p0p2a7f· ↗op家里穷到没有财产要继承了吗
That-Pay6497 · 2026-07-30 19:52:52 UTC · +5 ·
p0qi5ui· ↗事实证明日本不是一个法治国家，日本这个法那个法都没有高主席的看法重要。永驻权直接变永驻许可
Better-Advice2778 · 2026-08-02 05:06:34 UTC · +1 ·
p1780gl· ↗一直以來都是許可，哪來的權?跑去別人家住當然要別人同意阿
cmVkZGl0Kg · 2026-07-31 14:40:38 UTC · +1 ·
p0vufwb· ↗你以为经过这次折腾，归化就不会被影响？
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YogurtIll1978 · 2026-08-01 21:39:44 UTC · +1 ·
p156lxu·奈良县· ↗第一，不是所有人的家人都和你设想的情况一样。第二，永驻比归化规则透明。
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