為什麼這麼多中國人要去糾結永駐

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ztstillwater · 2026-07-29 09:51 UTC · +26 · p0fr490 · 润🇯🇵大手子 · ↗

归化难度更高，对日语要求高，而且是自由裁量，被拒不会给原因

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ytytku · 2026-07-29 10:43:44 UTC · +5 · p0fy6nb · ↗

对

RemoteHoney · 2026-07-29 17:47:23 UTC · +1 · p0ift1i · ↗

之前不是公認比永住簡單？

ztstillwater · 2026-07-29 20:31:27 UTC · +1 · p0ji0zx · 润🇯🇵大手子 · ↗

所谓公认是假的

BeautifulBright3419 · 2026-07-29 09:55:43 UTC · +2 · p0frpyd · ↗

就是啊，所以还是想两边拿好处嘛

CountryBackground617 · 2026-07-29 09:57:52 UTC · +2 · p0frzpk · ↗

担心失业被赶吧

KenHansson · 2026-07-29 10:14:37 UTC · +33 · p0fu6yf · ↗

刚从5年改成10年你就在这“没有变”了，还记得归化改的理由是不能和永住的难度倒挂吗？

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Expensive_You_3332 · 2026-07-29 10:22:39 UTC · +6 · p0fv9to · ↗

因為永駐的年收條件可能會影響到歸化條件。 如果只是永駐，我完全不會去關心。夢想就是成為太君，而且我也不需要日本的任何社會福利。

Mitotsudaera · 2026-07-29 10:40:17 UTC · +15 · p0fxp38 · ↗

因为这个是影响所有人的，它今天能改永驻条件，明天就能改归化条件。
对于认真工作的人，在归化前也必然是想要拿到永驻的，毕竟更安定，不会轻易被送中。
至于你说的“老老实实生活缴税”就不会被歧视，我觉得你要么没在工作中和日本人真正打过交道，要么就干脆还没上班。

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SuccessfulOwl5168 · 2026-07-29 12:03:15 UTC · +2 · p0gaqrn · ↗

永住比归化更安定？反了吧，归化是入籍啊，永住反而才容易被取消吧

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InstanceSpecific5326 · 2026-07-29 12:59:38 UTC · +4 · p0gla4x · ↗

比工签安定

Mitotsudaera · 2026-07-29 14:08:26 UTC · +1 · p0gzwcc · ↗

在归化前也必然是想要拿到永驻的，毕竟（比工签）更安定。。。

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Personal_Ad_7020 · 2026-07-29 11:04:28 UTC · +17 · p0g18uv · ↗

现在归化标准实际操作中不允许比永住难度低，您就慢慢熬吧。

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Ok_Stuff_8677 · 2026-07-29 11:13:32 UTC · +8 · p0g2mps · ↗

归化条件中由法务省自由裁量的部分，很大程度上是参考永住条件的。所以法务省这次改动永住政策，实际上等于隐性拉高了归化的审查门槛

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ToughEntrepreneur317 · 2026-07-29 11:39:10 UTC · +11 · p0g6opc · ↗

永驻都这么难了，他还愿意让你站哪点日本的福利吗？

Kana_Joe · 2026-07-29 11:58:13 UTC · +6 · p0g9voj · ↗

逃尼玛呢，永驻难道不是哪边好处都拿不到么，你告诉我老中有啥好处等你拿？要不是怕国内爹妈老了没人照顾，我不知道要归化？

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RemoteHoney · 2026-07-29 18:08:29 UTC · +1 · p0ikuj4 · ↗

有人說遺產繼承有問題

AccomplishedNerve888 · 2026-07-30 00:47:45 UTC · +1 · p0kwe18 · 关东地区 · ↗

你只要在日本住够十年工签也他妈要给日本交遗产税

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Ill-Specific-1731 · 2026-07-29 12:21:32 UTC · +10 · p0gdznp · ↗

如果有正向情感連結，有家人的愛和支持，哪怕真是在窪地，我想我也不會那麼痛苦。鬧鐘底層雄性出生就是原罪，出生自帶debuff疊滿。本蛆不管在日本還是在窪地，都屬於無人在意的路邊一條，唯一區別就是日本沒人會跳臉羞辱我，一個人過工資每個月還能存一點。永駐，規化我連想都不去想了，作為沒有任何正向情感來源的散沙化原子人，在哪都是苟活，感受不到任何快樂，能在日本待一天算一天，哪天活不下去重開就重開吧。

yirongyiburong · 2026-07-29 12:23:23 UTC · +7 · p0gebta · 中南海 · ↗

你能保证十年之间自己能一直拿到工签吗？

EggplantAdmirable999 · 2026-07-29 14:21:02 UTC · +2 · p0h2qle · ↗

op隐藏了发言记录

KoedaNagi · 2026-07-29 16:03:01 UTC · +6 · p0hqr0x · ↗

什么金鱼记忆，明明今年4月才改的归化政策，估计之后入籍条件也会同步永驻

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AdmirableImpact8873 · 2026-07-29 21:46:13 UTC · +1 · p0jy6ra · ↗

永驻标准相对还是明确的

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