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刚从5年改成10年你就在这“没有变”了,还记得归化改的理由是不能和永住的难度倒挂吗?
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归化难度更高,对日语要求高,而且是自由裁量,被拒不会给原因
对
之前不是公認比永住簡單?
所谓公认是假的
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因为这个是影响所有人的,它今天能改永驻条件,明天就能改归化条件。
对于认真工作的人,在归化前也必然是想要拿到永驻的,毕竟更安定,不会轻易被送中。
至于你说的“老老实实生活缴税”就不会被歧视,我觉得你要么没在工作中和日本人真正打过交道,要么就干脆还没上班。
永住比归化更安定?反了吧,归化是入籍啊,永住反而才容易被取消吧
比工签安定
在归化前也必然是想要拿到永驻的,毕竟(比工签)更安定。。。
相比中国很多人给我的歧视,日本人的这点算不了什么。可能因人因地而异吧。
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现在归化标准实际操作中不允许比永住难度低,您就慢慢熬吧。
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如果有正向情感連結,有家人的愛和支持,哪怕真是在窪地,我想我也不會那麼痛苦。鬧鐘底層雄性出生就是原罪,出生自帶debuff疊滿。本蛆不管在日本還是在窪地,都屬於無人在意的路邊一條,唯一區別就是日本沒人會跳臉羞辱我,一個人過工資每個月還能存一點。永駐,規化我連想都不去想了,作為沒有任何正向情感來源的散沙化原子人,在哪都是苟活,感受不到任何快樂,能在日本待一天算一天,哪天活不下去重開就重開吧。
永驻都这么难了,他还愿意让你站哪点日本的福利吗?
自己去调查。10年日配三小孩。老公1000+大手没换工作。永驻不许可。归化不许可(实际上无论什么条件,关东某县实际老中年初到现在0归化)
觉得自己有实力的来比比,日配主妇生三个,全部不许可。你们什么实力?
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你能保证十年之间自己能一直拿到工签吗?
什么金鱼记忆,明明今年4月才改的归化政策,估计之后入籍条件也会同步永驻
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逃尼玛呢,永驻难道不是哪边好处都拿不到么,你告诉我老中有啥好处等你拿?要不是怕国内爹妈老了没人照顾,我不知道要归化?
有人說遺產繼承有問題
你只要在日本住够十年工签也他妈要给日本交遗产税
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归化条件中由法务省自由裁量的部分,很大程度上是参考永住条件的。所以法务省这次改动永住政策,实际上等于隐性拉高了归化的审查门槛
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因為永駐的年收條件可能會影響到歸化條件。 如果只是永駐,我完全不會去關心。夢想就是成為太君,而且我也不需要日本的任何社會福利。
你日移民政策改的实在是太快了,阿妹现在的EB12345系统是88年定下来的,这么多年只有执行细节上的微调和特殊个案(比如六四血卡)
在高主席的带领下移民政策争取看齐马来西亚
只能祈祷以后又变松也是一下子变了
事实证明日本不是一个法治国家,日本这个法那个法都没有高主席的看法重要。永驻权直接变永驻许可
一直以來都是許可,哪來的權?跑去別人家住當然要別人同意阿
各位理性討論,各抒己見,我只是想知道這個sub所有人的看法,不要人身攻擊,罵街和只留一句沒有任何建設性意見的話謝謝各位。
担心失业被赶吧
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就是啊,所以还是想两边拿好处嘛
第一,不是所有人的家人都和你设想的情况一样。第二,永驻比归化规则透明。
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你以为经过这次折腾,归化就不会被影响?
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永驻标准相对还是明确的
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