各位，我已经去了横滨入管局，那边最近人很少了。
最近有神奈川行政书士联盟之类的机构在那边摆摊、免费回答问题，闲的没事干他们闲的蛋疼。我问了永驻收入问题，单身要500年收入，四口之家要千万年收，日本人不确定的话会很暧昧的，但是当时老头和他们都互相商量了一下，很确定的样子说大概就是这样的数字。
我问介护之类的收入没那么高怎么办、对方说可以工作签证持续带孩子，但是不能永驻，养老的时候再做别的打算。
也就是说，低收入者/低收入家庭，也就是北京当初的低端人口，外地人在北京上海混口饭吃一样，外来的农民工，成不了本地人，拿不到本地户口了。😅
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Easy_Flan7871 · 2026-10-20 11:25:54 UTC · +2 ·
phveuhg· ↗没问归化吗
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InstanceSpecific5326 · 2026-10-20 14:34:54 UTC · +1 ·
phwdahw·OP· ↗没问归化的收入数据，含糊的说了一下十年的事情，网上传说原则上不低于永驻不知道真假，我周五回头打电话问问然后再回复这里
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Any_Science956 · 2026-10-20 19:48:04 UTC · +1 ·
phxr3np· ↗十年怎么说的，一直对此耿耿于怀
InstanceSpecific5326 · 2026-10-20 23:58 UTC · +3 ·
phyk06q·OP· ↗就是要十年啊。说了之前是五年，现在要十年，永驻一般人也要十年，高度人才1-3年之类的话
jackyintokyo · 2026-10-22 20:42:43 UTC · +3 ·
19ri15zbkjxuq· ↗不用问了，现在没有永住，大使馆不给开领事证明，法务局不受理。在日华人现在受两边政府爆锤，哈哈。很心酸，但没办法。我也是其中一员
Gloomy_History_1721 · 2026-10-20 11:30:10 UTC · +24 ·
phvfh7n· ↗滞日区，结束
ztstillwater · 2026-10-20 12:03:23 UTC · +24 ·
phvkmh7·润🇯🇵大手子· ↗我记得8月份的时候网上信誓旦旦地说单身只要370万！还贴了权威数据呢！
Independent-Profit84 · 2026-10-20 12:10:41 UTC · +14 ·
phvltjr· ↗五岳散人王志安他们是满足条件了只能说
Remarkable_Bread5085 · 2026-10-20 14:04:36 UTC · +2 ·
phw742e· ↗结束了
DietrichLin · 2026-10-20 14:28:41 UTC · +13 ·
phwc2nb·神奈川县· ↗感觉就算收入达标了也有奇奇怪怪的地方会卡，反正シカイチ还在台上我是不会提交申请的
KenHansson · 2026-10-20 15:55:25 UTC · +4 ·
phwsq2o· ↗但是养老金还是可以正常拿的，这点还行
Asuka_Aozaki · 2026-10-21 03:02:56 UTC · +10 ·
phz2m6d· ↗德国是缴纳不到5年的话你既不能退回来也不能在未来拿，等于作废了，现在日本是不到10年能退回最后5年里交的一部分，以后谁知道日本会不会也变成不到10年直接作废，甚至按现在的趋势可能会变成外国人离开日本就不能领退休金
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jackyintokyo · 2026-10-22 20:40:34 UTC · +1 ·
19ri12j6g7yg1· ↗因为如果连这个都不行，在国际上就真的完全塌房了。
Brilliant_Bee2200 · 2026-10-20 19:09:26 UTC · +8 ·
phxm5oe· ↗30左右的大龄准备准备出清家具二润/送中吧
Any_Science956 · 2026-10-20 19:49:06 UTC · +1 ·
phxr8j7· ↗500还可以吧…正社员干个三五年怎么也有了
Worldly-Bandicoot564 · 2026-10-21 01:24:06 UTC · +13 ·
physwnh· ↗IT是有、其他行業如何是好？
InstanceSpecific5326 · 2026-10-21 03:51:03 UTC · +9 ·
phz6vlg·OP· ↗按照现在日本的态度等于大陆政府对于大城市的外来农民工的态度：燃料、耗材就是打完工回国
Any_Science956 · 2026-10-22 10:14:43 UTC · +1 ·
19rh95lkn0l5s· ↗我说的普通文科。理工科和IT就不止500了，IT干个三五年怎么也有一千个了。当然这都是算上bonus
FemmeFatalistYT · 2026-10-20 20:43:58 UTC · +12 ·
phxydl4· ↗So I'm guessing for my family of 3 it is 8.5 million yen a year. It has to be work visas too, I remember reading dependent pay doesn't count toward the income because they're not paying into the pension system, just taking out. I'm a professor, I make 5.7. My husband is working part time as a dependent. He used to be an SWE, but he can't find work here. Before the changes, I could have added a part time job and made 6.0 or a bit more and applied for us. Now, it's impossible unless my husband finds work in his field, which he's been stuck out of SWE for 2 years so it's looking grim (he is not even close to N2 Japanese, it's me who speaks Japanese in our household, which isn't helping his situation). Thinking about jumping ship to another country that will hire him. I can work anywhere, so yeah, going somewhere easier.
InstanceSpecific5326 · 2026-10-21 00:02:46 UTC · +3 ·
phyki2w·OP· ↗Hard time now😭
Brilliant_Bee2200 · 2026-10-21 03:00:29 UTC · +11 ·
phz2e61· ↗The most disgusting part is they dont differ the wage and role gaps between international cities and rural areas. There will be NO foreigners can stay out of Tokyo and Osaka. What a genius move to accelerate rural decline
FemmeFatalistYT · 2026-10-21 03:44:36 UTC · +2 ·
phz6bkm· ↗Yes, as it is, despite owning a house in a rural area, I also commute 2 prefectures over to even earn this much.
Worldly-Bandicoot564 · 2026-10-21 00:20:16 UTC · +1 ·
phymbs6· ↗結束了
Spirited-Road-6688 · 2026-10-21 01:31:03 UTC · +16 ·
phytmbj· ↗快进到没收gaijin交的养老金
revolutionaryartist4 · 2026-10-21 07:28:26 UTC · +7 ·
phzmltc· ↗I guarantee they’ll try.
Any_Calligrapher8537 · 2026-10-21 07:19 UTC · +10 ·
phzlzq9· ↗The more I hear about this the more I'm sure I'm just going to go back to the UK. After twenty years....
What on earth do they think this will achieve? The only thing I can think of is short term election success. But even that is debatable.
StatisticianFun8008 · 2026-10-21 20:55:45 UTC · +2 ·
19rg9ipunst9e· ↗I mean look at recent cyber attacks and the service long shutdown. They are not gonna make it and it gonna take them real money.
Even Takaichi's own website got hacked after her announcement. How embarrassing..
GeraldRudolph202212 · 2026-10-21 07:45:11 UTC · +2 ·
phznofq· ↗正社员年入不够的话，能不能再加上自己投资的公寓租金收入，这种租金收入可以算在内吗，有没有懂哥帮忙解答一下
ztstillwater · 2026-10-26 22:40:33 UTC · +1 ·
19rpbc04gszdv·润🇯🇵大手子· ↗在你的课税证明书里，人家看的是給与的数字，你的租金收入是属于給与吗？
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No_kokomi711 · 2026-10-21 10:57:33 UTC · +5 ·
pi00tbj· ↗我非常建议这些人二润来韩国（没有任何其他意思），韩国好歹是发达国家，同样是黄种人，而且在韩国打工可比中国进厂好多了
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pi0ahxn·OP· ↗会不会很难留下？
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